Ukraine was in trouble already — now it openly admits it's on track to lose - eviltoast
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      7 months ago

      The population of Ukraine is 38 million people. Putin would march every damn one of those Ukrainian civilians in as meat waves invading other countries and not care one damn.

    • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
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      7 months ago

      Also, just because Ukraine loses the traditional war, doesn’t mean that the fighting will stop.
      Also also, what greater threat to european peace and stability is there than a bunch of former allies, who are battle-hardened, traumatized, right next to EU borders and are feeling betrayed by their ‘western partners’?
      A russia-funded network of right-wing parties, aimed at breaking up the european union, recently invigorated by their success of stopping a unified response to russia’s invasion.

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        7 months ago

        Fuck, why did you have to write it down so eloquently? Hungary is lost, Slovakia is lost, who is going to be next? Can Poland hold them off?

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          7 months ago

          Any country not in NATO is at risk. Russia wouldn’t invade a NATO country. They’d get shit stomped and honestly probably have to resort to a nuclear weapon.

          I think the West would cut the head off the snake pretty quickly if Russia invaded a NATO country though.

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            7 months ago

            I think the West would cut the head off the snake pretty quickly if Russia invaded a NATO country though.

            Not if Trump wins.

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            7 months ago

            Not at risk of being invaded directly, but their governments are run by pro-russia madmen who will do everything to stay in power.

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        7 months ago

        Also also, what greater threat to european peace and stability is there than a bunch of former allies, who are battle-hardened, traumatized, right next to EU borders and are feeling betrayed by their ‘western partners’?

        Assuming you’re talking about the Ukrainian people in some kind of Guerilla warfare, I think they’d be more likely to focus their efforts on Russia (the ones that actually did the attacking, raping, and bombing) vs the west that just “didn’t do enough”

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      7 months ago

      Credibility? I just would rather not have to fight a land war in Europe after letting Russia finish its genocide of Ukraine