Breaking the law for real - eviltoast
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    7 months ago

    I’ve seen so many wrecks because of assholes trying to go 85-150 MPH on a god damn road. The comments here enforce the idea that people are just selfish, self centered motherfuckers when it comes to driving on the highway. There is a posted fucking speed LIMIT for a god damn reason. Leave earlier if you want to get to your fucking destination on time.

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      7 months ago

      Germany has proved it’s not the speed that causes the accidents it’s the excessive lane changing resulting in cutting people off.

      Cell phone addiction doesn’t help either.

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        Statistically, we have more deadly accidents on sections of the Autobahn with no speed limit, so speed is a factor, even though it isn’t the only one.

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          That is even more surprising than me seeing the accident statistics in Europe compared to US. I must have fallen for propaganda 😓

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        7 months ago

        Look, I’m not going to budge. I do not think people need to be going over 90/100 MPH on the road, with many other people driving, with animals also in the picture. I think it’s reckless, stupid, and just not necessary in any capacity. Again, I have seen too many fools driving way too fucking fast, hurt other innocent people because of their stupidity.

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          Sure you can believe that as much as you want but it doesn’t change that fact that some percentage of people are still going to drive entirely too fast, not to mention the much larger number of people who will drive a little over the limit. Study after study has shown the best way to move people going different speeds is to pass in the left lane and use the other lanes to go progressively slower as you move left. If you don’t think people should speed that’s fair and I agree, but that doesn’t change the fact that people will do it anyway.

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            7 months ago

            You can all move over for them if you want. When I am in a lane, it is because I need to be in that lane. I guess I can at least say I am passing people, so.

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      7 months ago

      “Selfish, self centered motherfuckers” would also describe those in the left lane while not passing with others behind them. No numbers needed. If someone is on your tail in the left lane and the right is open, move right. Everyone is safer, even people dumb enough to go 150, when passers aren’t forced to weave between lanes.

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        7 months ago

        I disagree. I think that just emboldens the fools who think they can drive over 100 MPH. If I am in the left lane, it is because I need to be in that lane. Point blank. I don’t care where you live, and what your states laws are, mine do not have those stupid ass laws.

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          7 months ago

          Drunk drivers who enter the freeway going the wrong direction usually drive in what they think is the right lane, which is actually the left lane. Camping in the left lane increases your chances of a head-on collision.

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            7 months ago

            So… to mitigate that, you encourage people to drive faster than they can reliably react to a situation such as this exact scenario…? Yeah, okay. Sound logic.

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              7 months ago

              Wow. Get familiar with the Uber app. You shouldn’t be driving if that’s the conclusion you reach based on anything I’ve said.

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      7 months ago

      Is your point the speed limit signs should be followed, but the “keep right except to pass” signs are ok to ignore?

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        I’ve never seen one of those in my state. I DO see plenty of SPEED LIMIT 70 MPH signs though. I think the keep right is fucking stupid, because it just causes drivers to swerve in and out of traffic, which is dangerous for multiple reasons, but will also cause congestion on the on ramps on to the interstate itself. It just goes to show you how each state having it’s own laws for driving is fucking stupid also.

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          It is the law in all 50 states for slower traffic to keep to the right when driving on the highway, regardless of the speed limit. So you just clearly don’t know how to drive, and have never bothered to learn, or even educate yourself in your own states driving laws. Keeping right also isn’t stupid at all. A lot of people, much smarter and experienced than yourself, armed with decades of data have decided that keeping right is the safest course of action. Obstructing the flow of traffic by driving slowly in the left lane continues to be far more dangerous than speeding ever could be.

          After many years in EMS I’ve seen the disastrous results of self righteous speed keepers and unpredictable drivers like yourself first hand and I really have less than zero sympathy. Stop worrying about the speed of other vehicles on the road and start worrying about your ability to drive predictably, in a way that keeps you inside the flow of traffic, in the spot you’re supposed to be.

          https://www.mwl-law.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/SLOWER-TRAFFIC-KEEP-RIGHT.pdf

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            EDIT: And for someone who was supposedly in EMS, that means you would have seen the direct consequences of what going TOO fast can do to the human bodies, and their vehicles involved. So, therefore if you were a sane individual, you would encourage people to follow the posted SPEED LIMIT. Also, I’m worried about what other drivers are fucking doing dangerously, BECAUSE I HAVE TO SHARE THE SAME FUCKING ROAD WITH THEM, YOU IDIOT.

            Oh, no. you hurt my feelings by saying shit you know nothing about! I might just cry. :(

            No, I learned what NOT to do from idiots who think they can safely drive over 90-100 MPH. Get the fuck over yourself, and just realize that going faster than 90 MPH DRASTICALLY increases your chances of colliding with something, someone, or LOSING CONTROL OF YOUR FUCKING VEHICLE.

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              seen the direct consequences of what going TOO fast can do to the human bodies, and their vehicles involved.

              At highway speeds, whether you’re going 55 mph or 75 mph makes little difference to your survivability. Crashing your car at highway speeds is going to hurt. The difference is somebody who’s speeding in the left lane is a lot less likely to cause an accident than somebody going too slowly in the left lane. People like you are a much larger danger to yourself and others than somebody going over the speed limit by a marginal amount, in an appropriate lane. And the fact that we have to share a road with people like you is infuriating. In my eyes you’re no better than drunk drivers. At least they were impaired when they made the poor decision to drive drunk. You make the choice to put everyone on the road at risk fully sober, because you just don’t care.

              Oh, no. you hurt my feelings by saying shit you know nothing about!

              Evidently I do, since I had to send you proof of your own state’s driving laws that by your own admission you were completely unaware of and also apparently don’t mind breaking. I guess it’s not about the law for you, just control over other people.

              The worst thing about scumbags like you is it’s not just simple ignorance that drives your self-centered, life threatening behavior on the road. You also just refuse to learn.

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                7 months ago

                55 vs 75 no difference?

                speeding cause less wrecks than driving ‘slowly’ in the left lane?

                yeah, you’re the scumbag speeder who refuses to learn. not someone who passes left but isn’t going fast enough for you. you’re gonna kill someone some day. psycho.

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                  55 vs 75 no difference?

                  Yeah if you think a 75mph crash will kill you but you get to walk away unharmed from a 55MPH crash, I have really bad news for you.

                  speeding cause less wrecks than driving ‘slowly’ in the left lane?

                  That is correct. Speeding is involved in a minority of accidents, and is the cause of even less. Over the course of a decade, I’ve seen two fatalities due to speeding, they didn’t harm anyone but themselves in the process, and both were on residential boulevards, not the freeway. I’ve seen far more caused by erratic unpredictable driving, driving too slow for traffic, and turning into traffic.

                  I’m a man who’s been fortunate enough to have saved dozens of lives that were almost ended by people like you that become road hazards on purpose, and less fortunately the witness of far more innocent people losing their lives because of drivers like yourself. People like you have caused far more injury and death than any speeders could hope to. Speeders are nothing more than a convenient scapegoat. As long as they themselves are not driving erratically or switching lanes unpredictably, they’re of minuscule concern. There are countries with freeways that have speed limits more than twice the U.S. and they do just fine.

                  • nublug@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                    7 months ago

                    good thing nobody said you’d walk away from a 55 mph crash you insane troll. not even bothering with the rest. eat shit.

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                You’re so fucking stupid. You know nothing about how I drive. Just because I complained about people who are obviously putting themselves, and others, at risk because they want to go above the posted speed limit. Don’t worry, asshole. The feeling is mutual. I hope you don’t drive too fast to be able to react in a timely manner the next time you are on the road. Others lives might be in danger with speed demons like yourself on the road.

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                  I know that you hyperfixate on speed limits and yet you don’t know your own state’s driving laws. That tells me all I need to know about how you. You don’t know how to drive, you don’t care that you’re putting people’s lives as risk over your perverse power fantasy. You think you’re more important than everyone else on the road. Being confronted with your own ignorance doesn’t even move the needle towards some introspection and actually learning how to drive safely with other people on the road.

                  People like you are responsible for so many preventable deaths on the road and then when somebody loses their life because of the bullshit head games you want to play while in control of a 2 ton hunk of metal, you’ll cry and sputter about “how did this happen” and “I didn’t mean to”. I wouldn’t even call you stupid because it’s more likely you just don’t care, as long as your fragile ego gets what it wants then fuck everyone else, right? Disgusting.

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                    Jesus Christ the fucking projection here! Look, I get it, getting behind the wheel and going vroom vroom really fast makes you feel really cool or makes you feel alive, but I guarantee there are safer ways to get your adrenaline going. Get the fuck over yourself, and drive safer. That’s all you gotta do, mate. Who is more unpredictable, the asshole like you going 90+ MPH on the road, bobbing and weaving between traffic to keep their speed going, or the person who is driving the posted speed limit, if not 5 more MPH higher? You’re truly stupid if you don’t think the reckless speeding vehicle is the unpredictable one.

                    People like me, who drive safely, are the exact reason I have never been in a car crash, at all. So, for fucks sake mate. Think of the others instead of being a selfish little cunt who thinks they have a right for some weird fucking reason to go above the legal speed limit. That’s all I have left to tell you. If you want to keep driving recklessly, I pray for the people around you, but your stupid ass should slow down and think about each and every person you are putting at risk by trying to go faster than you are reasonably equipped to handle. You’re not a NASCAR driver, buddy.

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                    Yes. I’m perfectly fine. I just don’t understand these idiots who think they have the right to go over the posted speed limit, when, as far I am aware, there is a limit for a reason, correct? So, when you are going over that speed limit, and especially at the speeds of 90+ MPH, you are at the mercy of those same idiots losing control of their vehicle due to a number of different reasons. They are just too fucking thick to understand they are putting way more people at risk of injury and death, than the people who are going slow. I’d much rather have safer, slower people on the roads, causing less and less accidents, than these fucks who are so far up their own asses, they can’t see the idiotic shit they are spewing.

    • chakan2@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      You understand most of those accidents weren’t due to someone speeding…they were due to someone causing a dramatic change in speed.

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        Oh. Like the people who just ram right into people because they were too busy going too fast to be able to properly control their vehicle…? Yeah, no shit.

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          Most accidents I see are from dumb fucks trying to merge into a fast moving lane from a dead stop because they were tailgating the guy in front of them too much and instead of waiting til they had enough speed to match the lane they were going into they just cut them off instead.

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            Right. So, if you’re going a reasonable speed, say, the posted speed limit of 70, you will be able to mitigate as much carnage as possible even when that person was doing something pretty dumb, because you will be able to slow down quicker and you’ll be able to keep control of the vehicle.

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              Even doing the speed limit won’t save you if someone swerves into your lane from a dead stop 200 feet in front of you. By your logic everyone should be going 15mph everywhere so we don’t get hurt.

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                No, no.

                By my logic, you should paying attention to your speed, because the speed limit is posted at 70. The benefits that come with going 70 and not 90+ are that you will be able to mitigate as much damage as possible, while on the interstate going the posted speed limit, by being able to either slow down quicker or react in a manner that allow you to prevent as much damage as possible.

                Is that more clear for you?

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                  Going 60 would mitigate even more damage, 50 even more, 40 even more, and so on until we might as well be commuting in bumper cars. Why is 70 the arbitrary line? Who are you to decide what an acceptable level of risk is for everyone else?

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                    Well, yes. You are not wrong, at all. We are talking about 70 though, because it is the most common posted speed limit. If you look on the sides on your local interstate, you might see one of them. It says speed limit on it, has a big 70 MPH. Pretty easy to spot.