Elon Musk will sue Australia for ordering X to remove a hateful post by an anti-trans activist - eviltoast
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  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
    541·
    7 months ago

    Do it! Burn your money fighting a major government. Then maybe you can be poor and I can never hear about you again.

    • Tamo240@programming.dev
      101·
      7 months ago

      Unfortunately he’s burning the governments money too so I wouldn’t be too excited about his constant lawmongering.

      I think often cases are won or settled based on who has the most money to keep them going.

      • laughterlaughter@lemmy.world
        114·
        7 months ago

        Oh please. A government doesn’t need expensive lawyers for cases like this, especially if the legal challenge happens in its territory. A simple “lol no” could be sufficient.

        • LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world
          67·
          7 months ago

          yeah that’s not how it works. developed countries don’t just go “lol no” and expect people to accept that. there’s a whole process or else they’re just gonna get sued again or lose legitimacy as a government.

          • laughterlaughter@lemmy.world
            104·
            7 months ago

            Yeah, Australia is a sovereign government, and some foreign company won’t just come in and twist its arm. Get real.

            • LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world
              65·
              7 months ago

              I mean, kind of, but still… that’s not how it works lol if Elon builds a credible case, they’re aren’t going to be just “lol no”. it’s gonna cost tax payer dollars and they’re not going to just be “lol no”. they’ll go through due process. it’s gonna go to the courts and it’s going to make shit annoying for people. you’re trivializing this situation like crazy.

              • laughterlaughter@lemmy.world
                24·
                7 months ago

                I’m not trivializing the situation, and you’re not saying anything new. Let’s use other examples.

                Google can’t use “Gmail” in Germany. Why haven’t they sued Germany into forcing them to let them use Gmail instead of GoogleMail?

                And remember when Musk threatened to remove Twitter from Europe because of a change in the law? Why didn’t he sue in The Hague?

                All bark and no bite.

                As much as you say the opposite, Australia will “lol no” out of with this one.

                • LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world
                  22·
                  7 months ago

                  you know just because you have a few cases where companies didn’t bother doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen at all. thats a logical fallacy where just because you have examples of one side doesn’t mean the opposite isn’t true at all. go google companies suing countries and you’ll see that companies sue countries and their regulators all the time. seriously… the term “companies suing countries” yields a lot of articles about companies suing countries over antitrust laws… companies suing countries over environmental laws, etc. companies are allowed to challenge laws in court and when they do, it’s taken seriously by legitimate governments…

      • Crikeste@lemm.ee
        7·
        7 months ago

        This sub exists because of the over-headlinification everything he does gets.

      • ZeroTwo@lemmy.world
        4·
        7 months ago

        I’ve actually started using this more regularly recently to help spread the good word here in America, cunt.

      • Dasus@lemmy.world
        41·
        7 months ago

        Also in the US corporations can sue people for defamation, unlike in Australia.

        Under the uniform defamation legislation which applies in every State and Territory, a corporation can’t sue for defamation unless it is an “excluded corporation”. An excluded corporation includes a not for profit or a company which employs fewer than 10 people.

        Americans really like the idea of being “the most free country” when that’s just objectively not true.

  • CaptKoala@lemmy.mlEnglish
    331·
    7 months ago

    Bring it on, crybaby. My country’s legal system is pretty fucked, but not like the US, so I expect this may actually backfire on him.

    • fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk
      7·
      7 months ago

      He seems pretty emotionally fragile - can we pressure him into doing stuff? i.e if people start posting stuff on Twitter, such as:

      “I heard Elon musk was too cowardly to go and film the ice wall at the edge of the Earth. I bet he’s one of those lame libtard round-Earthers”

      If enough people chipped in, surely we could make this happen.

    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
      2·
      7 months ago

      Elon Musk would be so cool if he did some of that skyscraper parkour. Not many are brave enough for something as awesome as that. All my friends and I would buy Teslas even at the price before it was dropped if its CEO was that cool.

  • HollandJim@lemmy.worldEnglish
    15·
    7 months ago

    Big deal. If he ripped a fart in public, he’d sue the mexican restaurant he ate at the night before.

    He uses lawsuits to bludgeon because he can afford an unlimited number of them. All because China Inc saved Tesla and made him rich…can’t wait to see him lose it all to BYD (who he smugly laughed at a decade back - who’s laughing now, Chuckles?)

    • blazeknave@lemmy.world
      3·
      7 months ago

      Him and trump are that fucking kid that would yell “oh yeah, well I’ll sue you (with daddy’s money” because they never had their jaw broken.

  • N_Crow@leminal.spaceEnglish
    14·
    7 months ago

    “The supreme court of australia judges that australia is innocent. Now pay our court fees sucker.” That’s a PR move.

  • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
    8·
    7 months ago

    I’ve no idea how somebody can have so much money, yet still have a face like a sock filled with marbles.

  • Beefy-Tootz@lemmy.world
    91·
    7 months ago

    I’m not knowledgeable in Australian law. Would someone more well versed be able to hit me with a tldr of how this would work? Does Australia have “free speech” similar to what I understand as an American? Does the government there have the legal authority to make that sort of request? I’m not really worried about whether they should or shouldn’t have that authority, or the general ethics surrounding this,I just kind of want to know what the law says

    • Cypher@lemmy.world
      23·
      7 months ago

      Australia has implied freedom of speech only, and only with respect to political and economic communication AFAIK.

      https://www.vgso.vic.gov.au/implied-constitutional-freedom-political-communication

      Like many countries Australia has ruled against hate speech in the past and such speech is not protected.

      For example the racial hatred act limits speech: https://humanrights.gov.au/our-work/racial-hatred-act-what-racial-hatred-act

      There are also laws governing content on social media platforms, including both older media standards and newer laws designed to regulate companies such as X or Facebook.

      https://www.esafety.gov.au/newsroom/whats-on/online-safety-act

      There are other relevant laws to consider as well but while I am a cyber security expert and not a lawyer I don’t expect Musk to have a good time in Australian courts.

      • Beefy-Tootz@lemmy.world
        17·
        7 months ago

        If I’m understanding the esafety act correctly, the Australian government has the authority to fine and issue injunctions, which I’m going to assume could lead up to a ban in the country. Seems like a pretty straightforward L for Musk

      • valaramech@kbin.social
        13·
        7 months ago

        Correct. Freedom of Speech does not imply freedom from consequence and only protects you from the government. The State can’t tell you what you’re allowed say and can’t jail you for saying them (outside of a limited band of things that have been thoroughly litigated). However, that does nothing to modify the social contract. If you say something that most people don’t like, they’re going to get you to stop saying it one way or another.

        • yetAnotherUser@feddit.de
          21·
          7 months ago

          Shouting “I’m going to kill the president of the United States” in front of the White House will not lead to you being arrested, provided you have zero intention to pull through with it? It is nothing but speech after all.

  • Optional@lemmy.world
    81·
    7 months ago

    Another worthwhile and fruitful decision from Elmo Nazi. Yes, it’s easy to see why so many considered him a genius.

      • eldavi@lemmy.world
        1·
        7 months ago

        considering how deep his pockets are; i would expect him to be the beneficiary of the world’s efforts to figure out how to live forever.

        a future society will be calling him god-king.

        • Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world
          1·
          7 months ago

          He’s probably going to upload himself in every neuralink chip installed in some poor rube’s brain…then we’ll have a whole army of them. Like a racist ‘Lawnmower Man’…