Grisham on Trump’s meeting with Orbán: ‘He wants to be a dictator’ - eviltoast
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    8 months ago

    Yeah God forbid they write too many articles about this guy who tried to overturn an election, and claiming he wants to be a dictator on day 1, cozying up to dictators.

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      A guy who just won the primary for one of the two major political parties in the country. With 91+ criminal indictments. Half a dozen losses in civil cases. A guy who’s so broke he just had to leverage most of his liquid assets.

      Somehow that guy is still in the news. Because he’s insanely popular. Still. For some fucking reason.

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      But do you understand how they dont mean anything and are just used to get clicks and lead you in a paticular direction?

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        What do you mean “lead me in a particular direction”? Do you mean lead me to vote. Yeah, that’s exactly why I think it’s important. It’s motivates people to vote.

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          Leads them in the direction of believing propaganda. And then like you say, it mostivates them to vote based on false or misleading information.

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              It makes people think that trump wants to be dictator, which is a standard talking point to scare people that are not paying attention. “BUT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO BE DICTATOR ON THE FIRST DAY!!!” It was joke.

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                Why are you so sure he doesn’t? He demands completely loyalty, he commonly and regularly uses a lot of the same rhetoric, he praises a lot of dictators, and (most importantly) he literally tried to overturn an election he lost, and fired up his followers so much that they violently attempt to block peaceful transition of power. The fact that someone might look at this and have an opinion that he wants to be a dictator is reasonable, and there is absolutely zero false or misleading about reporting that someone said this.

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                  I dont know for sure he doesnt, but dictators dont typically give up power once they have achieved it.

                  The problem with the article is that it gives air to a conspiracy theory and the only reason that do that is because it serves the purpose of trying to make trump lose.

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                    but dictators dont typically give up power once they have achieved it.

                    Well, he tried to hold onto official power, but the system held up against it. Thankfully, I’m not so sure it will again now that he has learned some lessons. Also, he hasn’t actually given up much of his power. He has used his political weight to influence republicans the past 4 years, even getting them to vote against a bill that would give them pretty much Republicans everything they wanted when it comes to immigration and border security, with only having to “give up” more funding to Ukraine. He still has a ton of power.

                    The problem with the article is that it gives air to a conspiracy theory and the only reason that do that is because it serves the purpose of trying to make trump lose.

                    Let’s be honest here. You just don’t want them reporting on people sharing their informed opinions about Trump because you are afraid the truth might hurt his chances of winning.

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                Uhhh, he said that NUMEROUS times before his whole “dictator on the first day”, and even then he walked it back AFTER being reminded that “hey, people aren’t quite ready for that”. How about the fact that his world-leader idols are almost all, to a man, dictators or wannabe dictators? Erdogan, Orban, Kim Jong-Un, Putin - this is a dude who said he most idolizes Mussolini and Andrew Jackson. One of his commonly-voiced complaints when he took office was that he couldn’t just unilaterally command that things be done, and according to aides, he had to constantly be reminded that things were illegal or beyond the scope of his office.

                I dunno about you, but this sounds like the hallmarks of a man who would absolutely be a dictator, or close enough to it to not really matter.

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            Yeah you know what you’re so smart there guy on the Internet that thinks voting for a dude with 91 fucking criminal indictments for president is a good idea.

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                No other former president has even one criminal indictment.

                There’s a reason why politicians typically resign when faced with even a single criminal indictment: they are too distracted by their legal problems to devote the time necessary to do the work of the people.

                But somehow this guy who can’t even remember who the current president is will not be distracted by 91 criminal indictments? GTFOH

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                    If it were one state, or one federal case, sure. Here’s the thing: he’s being prosecuted in multiple states, and in multiple federal courts for multiple different things. Generally, if you were trying to make a “kangaroo court” argument like Navalny had, then why go through all this rigmarole? If the government is so out to get Trump, why let him walk free and campaign and host rallies? Why wait 3 years to get the ball rolling on most of these cases? Why even bother coming up with plausible arguments and presenting them before a jury?