People who generalize as if the US is one government instead of one big inept government and then 50+ governments that have districts and counties and cities are aggravatingly ignorant and smug. - eviltoast

“The US should do X and they suck because they don’t!” Each state has it’s own laws on education. Some places suck, some do not. It’s not a monolith.

“The US has shitty beer lol” We have some of the best beer in the world but it’s local/state/region only and never exported unlike fancy Euro beer.

The US for better or worse is a, hmmm 🤔 a unity of government states under a federation called America. It’s very hard to get federal laws and bills passed, especially for education. The states want the power to chooses for themselves what they do, and the federal government hangs above them, sometimes intervening.

We are a huge country that has a relatively unique circumstance of government, population, and young brutal history. I’m a Californian and I live in the Bay Area which almost literally a different country than most of America, especially the South and Midwest.

I’m so sick of people, especially smug Europeans, talking like they know Americans and America but they don’t really know shit about us except the movies and going to NYC and Miami.

Yes I am having a bad day.

To be honest I love Europe and have friends there that I miss dearly! I’ve been many times. But dumbassery is dumbassery.

EDIT: You people are an exhausting swarm of pecking ravens and I’ve spent all the “toxic” energy I want arguing with half you because you just hear what you want to hear and fit the stereotype I loathe I think you only commented out of trained reflex and a few of you are just unsophisticated haters. Whatever, fuck you, and all that jazz.

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    If you want to go on foreign policy, sure. The federal government is usually the lead. However, there are a lot of things handled at the state and local level that Europeans love to extrapolate to all the USA when it doesn’t go that far.

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      Outside of Vermont, New York, Colorado and California, there really aren’t a lot of places in the US that seem normal to the rest of the world. And if you go at the county level, it gets worse it seems.

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        Washington, Oregon, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Maine. And then large parts of most other states. You do realize more than 50% of America is very in line with most of western Europe… right?

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          In line with Western Europe?

          Not even close.

          Heck, even Canada isn’t even in line with Western Europe. You guys are so far right, even your most left-wing party is considered conservative in Europe. And your right-wing party are literally Nazis.

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            I always forget that it’s just a liberal utopia of sunshine and bunnies over there and America, and Canada apparently, are knuckle dragging fascists. Literally every single person.

            Sounds like someone missed the fucking point and is doing exactly what I said makes you a smug prick.

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              I think you need to open your mind and travel the world a bit. You should go visit Europe sometime.

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                I’ve traveled the planet likely more than you have, to all the occupied continents. My mind is open. That doesn’t make me blind to prejudice, like the prejudice you just displayed in thinking Americans don’t travel.

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          From an American point of view, maybe if you squint a bit. From the rest of the world that is a laughable statement.

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        I find it hard to believe that Vermont Colorado and California even fit in with Western European standards considering the absolute lack of any useful public transportation in any of those states. Even NY only resembles Europe in NYC, upstate NY is some of the worst parts of the US to live in.

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          Oh wow. You cracked the case. The only thing that matters when comparing a city… Is public transportation. Wow! What a fucking revelation! I hope you get to be mayor. No, Supreme Leader of the World someday.

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            I mean if you wanna play this game, our public education also is not up to the standards of those countries, unless you’re comparing to Bosnia instead of Germany for some odd reason. Yes, especially in those states you mentioned. Also those states are still subject to the American healthcare system. And those states, possibly excluding VT, have a much higher rate of poverty and homelessness than any developed nation in Europe. All of these things are enough to destroy your argument by themselves, but when added up you have no legs to stand on

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              But not all states have the same exact healthcare. And I’m not trying to measure dicks about about healthcare. I never brought it up, not once. It sucks because it’s not free for everyone, I get it. We alllll get it. I didn’t bring up homelessness. I see it daily. It sucks too. What fucking part of my comment don’t you understand? What is so damn hard? It’s like I say don’t be a smug ignorant prick about America and it’s people and then it’s a string of reasons why America is the worst? What? Why? Was I saying America is the best place or is that what you wanted me to say, what every bitter and jaded asshole (besides me) wanted to hear so you could vent and bitch.

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                You literally said in your post that America is not that bad and that there’s somehow a world of difference between different states, I’m just stating facts about how everything about those statements is bullshit. You can be mad about that if you want but you can’t claim it’s not that bad here when it’s literally worse than every developed nation