Michigan governor says not voting for Biden over Gaza war ā€˜supports second Trump termā€™ - eviltoast

Gretchen Whitmer responds to calls by some Democrats to vote ā€˜uncommittedā€™ in Michiganā€™s primary on Tuesday

Gretchen Whitmer, the Michigan governor, pushed back on calls to not vote for Joe Biden over his handling of the Israel-Gaza conflict, saying on Sunday that could help Trump get re-elected.

ā€œItā€™s important not to lose sight of the fact that any vote thatā€™s not cast for Joe Biden supports a second Trump term,ā€ she said on Sunday during an interview on CNNā€™s State of the Union. ā€œA second Trump term would be devastating. Not just on fundamental rights, not just on our democracy here at home, but also when it comes to foreign policy. This was a man who promoted a Muslim ban.ā€

Whitmer, who is a co-chair of Bidenā€™s 2024 campaign, also said she wasnā€™t sure what to expect when it came to the protest vote.

Rashida Tlaib, a Democrat who is the only Palestinian-American serving in Congress, urged Democrats last week to vote ā€œuncommittedā€ in Michiganā€™s 27 February primary.

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    8 months ago

    Thatā€™s amusing.

    Yes Iā€™m apposed to genital mutilation. Itā€™s easy to say.

    Youā€™re the one trying to make this about some thing itā€™s not. People are protesting our current governmentā€™s policy towards Israel. That is to say, theyā€™re protesting our current governmentā€™s support of genocide.

    This has nothing at all to do with the upcoming election; and telling people to shut up about it, or Trump might win (or implying it) is a good sign that maybe people find the current policy deeply unpopular.

    And yes, what you are doing is in fact defending genocide. So which of us is an asshole here?

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      8 months ago

      And yes, what you are doing is in fact defending genocide. So which of us is an asshole here?

      No, Iā€™m pointing out that arguing with strawmen and putting words in peopleā€™s mouths is dumb and childish, and like I said, you are, for repeatedly using strawman arguments. Try and not put words in peopleā€™s mouths. Itā€™s really really not complicated for most people over the age of 12.

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        8 months ago

        saying ā€œgenocide is badā€ is not a strawman.

        Saying itā€™s not about the election is not a strawman.

        Saying arguments that Biden is better than trump is a cop out is not a strawman.

        Saying people- myself included- are protesting the war in gaza is not about the election is a strawman.

        I am not putting up a scarecrow to argue against. Nor am I putting up a sock puppet. Iā€™m saying making the genocide in Gaza about the election is stupid. youā€™re (royal you) are telling me to shut up and vote for Biden. youā€™re attempting to change the topic of discussion into defending being upset at Biden. youā€™re getting pissed because people are upset about genocide. news flash: most reasonable people are upset by genocide.

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          8 months ago

          youā€™re (royal you) are telling me to shut up and vote for Biden.

          No, Iā€™m telling you to shut up and stop putting words in peoples mouths, and yet there you go again, claiming that I said anything about Biden or voting or genocide.

          Literally all Iā€™ve said this entire thread is to stop putting words in peopleā€™s mouths and you just keep crying about me silencing your views on Gaza. Express your views, express them to people who say the opposite, so far thatā€™s not the people youā€™ve been replying to.