Generative AI’s environmental costs are soaring — and mostly secret - eviltoast

one assessment suggests that ChatGPT, the chatbot created by OpenAI in San Francisco, California, is already consuming the energy of 33,000 homes. It’s estimated that a search driven by generative AI uses four to five times the energy of a conventional web search. Within years, large AI systems are likely to need as much energy as entire nations.

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    9 months ago

    The discussion here? Nothing. The person trying to have a discussion with me? Everything. Because yesterday, he said that I support genocide both due to the fact that I will do anything to keep Trump out of office to save my queer daughter’s life and due the the fact that I exist. And now he wants to chat with me as if he never said that.

    No one did anything about it in this community when he said those things. And, believe it or not, the topic of discussion was not genocide.

    Why should I let someone who was that hateful towards me act like nothing was ever said a day later?

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      9 months ago

      I’m with you on this 100% and not just because my own queer daughter’s life is on the line.

      If we are gonna play the ‘be civil’ card, play it on everyone. Certainly don’t overlook people accusing others of genocide. You’d think that didn’t need to be said but shrug

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      9 months ago

      Because it’s against the sub’s rules to attack him personally.

      Why not block him? You’ll never see him again.

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        9 months ago

        He attacked me personally repeatedly and nothing was done. Why is he being held to a different standard?

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            Again- you said I supported genocide no matter who I voted for or whether I voted or not.

            I specifically asked you who I should vote for or if I should even vote at all to not support genocide. You specifically told me that it didn’t matter who I voted for or if I didn’t vote.

            You also don’t give a shit about queer people since you don’t think anything should be done to stop the coming queer genocide that will end up making my own daughter marched into a camp. Queer people can be killed off and you won’t give a shit.

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                    9 months ago

                    Well no actually, you implied your only 2 options were Biden or Trump

                    Now you’re gaslighting. I clearly showed in that image that I asked you for another option. I asked you multiple times too. Stop gaslighting. Apart from the proof I already provided, here is more:

                    It is a fact that you told me that I support genocide no matter who I vote for or even if I don’t vote. I proved it and you’re still lying and gaslighting.

                    You’ve still failed to show me any evidence that I don’t care about LGBTQ people.

                    Apart from this and many things like it-

                    If you are upset because you think your daughter has a chance to be killed in a hypothetical genocide, and not upset at the thousands of dead children in gaza that Biden is partially responsible for, then that is absolutely about you, and I find it funny that you fail to see that lol.

                    Also, see my paste above where I specifically said that I would vote for anyone who would prevent my daughter from being a part of a genocide. I asked you directly who that would be. You refused to answer and just kept telling me I supported genocide no matter what.

                    You have, multiple times, suggested that the queer genocide that Republicans have made no secret about wanting to implement is only “hypothetical” and thus I shouldn’t put my daughter’s safety first.

                    You do not care about queer people.

                    You also don’t understand how parenting works or why putting something else before your child is fucking child abuse.

                    Or maybe you don’t care about child abuse either.

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          9 months ago

          I’m not holding him to a different standard. I wasn’t in whatever fight you and he might have had, I don’t know what community it happened in.

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            You seem to be holding both him and yourself to a different standard since you just made a personal attack.

            And it happened in this community. You could have asked which community.

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              9 months ago

              Where did I make a personal attack? The comment where you explicitly asked for examples of you being anti-AI?

              And you’re slinging personal attacks against both of us, so if “holding people to different standards” is such a big deal, well…

              I didn’t ask because it didn’t matter. I wasn’t present, I have no idea what you guys were arguing about and I don’t care. The point is that you suddenly brought that argument in here, where it’s a complete non-sequitur and not relevant to the subject at hand. And you’re certainly not being civil about it.

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                9 months ago

                Where did I make a personal attack?

                Right here:

                Last week you were advocating in favor of mobs burning self-driving cars if they were “pissed off” by them.

                Because that is a false accusation intended to make me look bad. And you know it.

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                  You literally asked for that. What a wonderful catch-22 you set up; if nobody responded with the evidence you demanded you could claim people were lying about you, and if they provided it you can claim they’re launching personal attacks.

                  Rereading that previous thread, I see you were quick to accuse me of issuing personal attacks there too. Seems to be a common theme.

                  Anyway. Is there anything more to discuss here about the actual topic of this thread, the energy usage of ChatGPT?

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                    I literally asked for you to lie in order to make me look bad by claiming I said people could burn a car if they were pissed off?

                    I’m pretty sure I didn’t say either thing.

                    And yes I did accuse you of making personal attacks then. Because you were making them then and you’re making them now.