Generative AI’s environmental costs are soaring — and mostly secret - eviltoast

one assessment suggests that ChatGPT, the chatbot created by OpenAI in San Francisco, California, is already consuming the energy of 33,000 homes. It’s estimated that a search driven by generative AI uses four to five times the energy of a conventional web search. Within years, large AI systems are likely to need as much energy as entire nations.

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    9 months ago

    He attacked me personally repeatedly and nothing was done. Why is he being held to a different standard?

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        9 months ago

        Again- you said I supported genocide no matter who I voted for or whether I voted or not.

        I specifically asked you who I should vote for or if I should even vote at all to not support genocide. You specifically told me that it didn’t matter who I voted for or if I didn’t vote.

        You also don’t give a shit about queer people since you don’t think anything should be done to stop the coming queer genocide that will end up making my own daughter marched into a camp. Queer people can be killed off and you won’t give a shit.

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                9 months ago

                Well no actually, you implied your only 2 options were Biden or Trump

                Now you’re gaslighting. I clearly showed in that image that I asked you for another option. I asked you multiple times too. Stop gaslighting. Apart from the proof I already provided, here is more:

                It is a fact that you told me that I support genocide no matter who I vote for or even if I don’t vote. I proved it and you’re still lying and gaslighting.

                You’ve still failed to show me any evidence that I don’t care about LGBTQ people.

                Apart from this and many things like it-

                If you are upset because you think your daughter has a chance to be killed in a hypothetical genocide, and not upset at the thousands of dead children in gaza that Biden is partially responsible for, then that is absolutely about you, and I find it funny that you fail to see that lol.

                Also, see my paste above where I specifically said that I would vote for anyone who would prevent my daughter from being a part of a genocide. I asked you directly who that would be. You refused to answer and just kept telling me I supported genocide no matter what.

                You have, multiple times, suggested that the queer genocide that Republicans have made no secret about wanting to implement is only “hypothetical” and thus I shouldn’t put my daughter’s safety first.

                You do not care about queer people.

                You also don’t understand how parenting works or why putting something else before your child is fucking child abuse.

                Or maybe you don’t care about child abuse either.

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                    9 months ago

                    Ah, so you agree.

                    Good.

                    I will make sure that when queer people or children are brought up in future and you get involved to note you don’t care about queer people or child abuse. I’ll also mention that you think that people can support genocide by existing and warn people that you are talking to that you believe they are guilty of supporting genocide because they exist.

                    Nice to know what to do from now on.

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      9 months ago

      I’m not holding him to a different standard. I wasn’t in whatever fight you and he might have had, I don’t know what community it happened in.

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        9 months ago

        You seem to be holding both him and yourself to a different standard since you just made a personal attack.

        And it happened in this community. You could have asked which community.

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          9 months ago

          Where did I make a personal attack? The comment where you explicitly asked for examples of you being anti-AI?

          And you’re slinging personal attacks against both of us, so if “holding people to different standards” is such a big deal, well…

          I didn’t ask because it didn’t matter. I wasn’t present, I have no idea what you guys were arguing about and I don’t care. The point is that you suddenly brought that argument in here, where it’s a complete non-sequitur and not relevant to the subject at hand. And you’re certainly not being civil about it.

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            9 months ago

            Where did I make a personal attack?

            Right here:

            Last week you were advocating in favor of mobs burning self-driving cars if they were “pissed off” by them.

            Because that is a false accusation intended to make me look bad. And you know it.

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              You literally asked for that. What a wonderful catch-22 you set up; if nobody responded with the evidence you demanded you could claim people were lying about you, and if they provided it you can claim they’re launching personal attacks.

              Rereading that previous thread, I see you were quick to accuse me of issuing personal attacks there too. Seems to be a common theme.

              Anyway. Is there anything more to discuss here about the actual topic of this thread, the energy usage of ChatGPT?

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                I literally asked for you to lie in order to make me look bad by claiming I said people could burn a car if they were pissed off?

                I’m pretty sure I didn’t say either thing.

                And yes I did accuse you of making personal attacks then. Because you were making them then and you’re making them now.

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                  9 months ago

                  MagicShel said:

                  This is about you hate AI

                  And you responded:

                  Please demonstrate that to be true. Unless it’s a lie. Is it a lie?

                  So I demonstrated.

                  There’s no need to screenshot one specific quote and present it with no context, I provided a link to the whole thread.

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                    9 months ago

                    The only thing you demonstrated was that you lied. And you provided the link to prove it.

                    The first statement was, as I have demonstrated, a lie. The second statement was, as I said, dishonest, because it was a group decision, not a unilateral one, and had nothing to do with hating AI in general.

                    So no, you have not shown that to be in any way true. All you have shown is that you are a highly dishonest person who makes scurrilous accusations in order to harm someone’s reputation.

                    Badly.