Kenneth Smith ‘struggled for life’ for 22 minutes in Alabama nitrogen gas execution: Updates - eviltoast

“Kenny just began to gasp for air repeatedly and the execution took about 25 minutes total.”

Pretty compassionate way to kill a person.

Once again, the Law in the south is brutal.

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      9 months ago

      The state does not care whether they are innocent as well, and that callousness is just as bad from the eyes of people living in a civilized society…

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        9 months ago

        I’m pretty sure this guys’s guilt was beyond dispute. States have so many appeals and checks on capital punishment that it is much, much cheaper to default to life in prison. The economic argument isn’t noble but should be included in the debate.

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          9 months ago

          It’s estimated that 4% of prisoners on death row are innocent. Sure, we’re certain about this guy, but that’s the case for those 4%, as well.

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            9 months ago

            That’s a good argument for increasing the threshold of guilt for capital crimes. But of those legitimately and obviously guilty, do they owe a debt equal to their own life for murdering someone else?

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              How does their death pay for that debt? There is no compensation, no restitution has been made, nothing else is corrected. So, why?

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                It would be restoration by proxy. I once had a friend who stole money. He did not know the person and could never find him again. To make restoration he gave an equal amount plus reasonable interest to a charity, anonymously. The charity was a proxy for the man from whom he stole.

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                  So, was the restoration something he lost, or something he returned to someone else? Would it have been restoration if he just burned the money instead of giving the money to someone?

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          9 months ago

          Which opinion? That the state doesn’t care about whether a victim of a murderer is innocent or also a criminal? You can look up just about any criminal case and see that criminals are just as often victims of crime as any ‘innocent’ person. Literally, a compatriot dying while committing a crime with you will get you charged with Felony Murder.

          If you mean that the state doesn’t care if it executes innocent people, well: https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence

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            9 months ago

            So aside from your opinion… and a link that doesn’t even suggest what states actually care about,

            got anything else?

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        Woah there, kiddo. It appears you haven’t learned how crime and punishment works. You see, there are varying degrees of crimes, and thus- varying degrees of punishment.

        This is why shoplifters aren’t executed.

        Hopefully this simple reference will keep you from embarrassing yourself in the future.

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      9 months ago

      Civilian murderers also have justifications for their actions. I accept those justifications just as much as I do those of the State murderers.

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      9 months ago

      This place is so stupid sometimes they’d fight for the rights of their own families murderer’s. No point in trying to put facts in front of people like that. They’ve made their decision.

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        9 months ago

        Oh I know. I’d be surprised none of them reported my comment simply because they disagree with it. Lemmy LOVES being outraged.

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              Seems Lemmy also loves coming to conclusions on people they know nothing about.

              So how is what I said about you being outraged different from what you said about “Lemmy” being outraged?

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                Because I’m showing no indications of actually being outraged, and Lemmy does tens of thousands of times daily.

                That’s how.

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                  I’d be surprised none of them reported my comment simply because they disagree with it

                  You sound pretty outraged.

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                    I can assure you, you’re reading into it wrong. Reread it again- and imagine it coming from someone that doesn’t give a shit whether or not it happens- but that they meant what they said about not being surprised- because I guarantee that it’s been reported.

                    Now I’m going to add some smiley emojis to emphasize the point as that’s apparently how people understand things now.

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