Just sayin - eviltoast
    • Yondoza@sh.itjust.works
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      8 months ago

      How do you handle situations where people want to live temporarily in houses? An example would be a traveling nurse that doesn’t want to be in an apartment building.

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        8 months ago

        May people prefer to rent houses over owning one. Many of them I speak to tell me they want nothing to do with house maintenance and upkeep and they prefer to rent so that they don’t have to think or worry about any of the repairs. They like being able to just call the property manager when the hot water stops working or when their kiddo accidentally breaks a window.

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          When the kids breaks a window, they still have to pay. They just don’t have to source it, which means they might not be getting the best deal.

          Plus, most landlords leave things till the last minute or make it such hard work for the tenant to report it, they don’t bother.

          The maintenance is built into the rent, so they’re already paying for it, just not getting the best deal and losing the option to do it how they want.

          • Bocky@lemmy.world
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            8 months ago

            Everything you are saying is true, and even with those facts noted, some people still prefer the convenience of renting and some like the carefree aspect of not having to be responsible for the upkeep.

        • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          Well that’s all well and good until every house rental in your area starts requiring you to either do the maintenance anyway, or pay for it. So you get to pay for the house, and you get to maintenance the house, but you don’t get to own the house.

          I’ve watched things change in just the last 5 years where renting a house means you have to maintenance everything that isn’t structural, including lawn care, but you don’t own any stake in the house, and you can forget about putting up a shelf or a new coat of paint. And now that you’re paying the mortgage and taxes on this house, you’re paying for all the utilities for the house, and are fixing all the problems that occur with the house, the landlord gets to send people over whenever they want to that get to go inside your house and look around without you being home just to make sure you’re taking care of it the way they want you to. And then when you leave, either because you found a better deal, or the landlord just doesn’t feel like renting it to you anymore, you get the pleasure of walking away with nothing.

        • ysjet@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          Then buy a fucking maintenance contract, just like landlords do.

          • Bocky@lemmy.world
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            8 months ago

            Why do you care so much how someone else chooses to live their life? Some people want to rent and it’s no one else’s business to make them do any different.

            If you want to own a house and a buy a maintenance contract go for it.

            I personally wouldn’t wish dealing with a home warranty company claim on my worst enemy. They are all scams geared to deny claims.

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        8 months ago

        that’s significantly less bad of a problem than the current issue of no one being able to afford homes. that nurse might just have to go for the apartment… that’s really not that big of a deal.

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          8 months ago

          I understand your sentiment, but it took all of a half second to think of one scenario that would cause problems in the proposed system.

          As frustrating as it is to hold off on a good-intentioned change, it is far more detrimental to charge headlong without considering the consequences. The systems that are in place now are there for a reason. Some of those reasons are greed and corruption, but others are because of they fulfill people’s needs. It would be stupid to build a new system to address the greed side without addressing the need side.

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      8 months ago

      Houses are pretty terrible for a multitude of factors:

      • urban sprawl
      • congestion
      • pollution
      • high cost public works
      • low income for public bodies doing those works
      • environmental erosion
      • flood protection

      We should be building apartments that everyone can own, live and be happy in. It shouldn’t be reserved for home owners.

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        Houses are pretty great for a few factors

        • Not sharing a wall with a neighbor
        • being able to be louder in general
        • Not being woken up by neighbors
        • Not getting your home infested with bugs because of having a nasty neighbor
        • No loud honking at night
        • Not having your door accidentally knocked on to ask if your apartment neighbor is home when they’re not answering their door
        • Parking in your own garage
        • Having a yard for your dog/kids to play in

        Apartments fucking suck in so many ways. I get that they’re pretty handy in City Skylines where everyone bases their urban planning experience from but there is a reason people prefer to live in house and it’s because it gives you separation from other people in a way apartments cannot.

        • Taldan@lemmy.world
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          How does a detached single family home prevent honking? Why haven’t you explained to my neighbors they have to stop honking? Because they definitely still do, and it is still a nuisance

          Detached homes definitely have many benefits, but they’re incredibly expensive. If we didn’t subsidize them so much, we’d have a whole lot more people living in denser housing. The US has something like 85% single family homes compared to around 40% in Germany

          It’s not that Germans are just so much better neighbors that they can put up with shared walls/spaces. It’s just not worth the cost of a detached home when it isn’t as heavily subsidized (they do still subsidize them compared to dense housing options)

          TL;DR - Detached homes are fine, but we need to quit giving such massive subsidizes to them

        • RecallMadness@lemmy.nz
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          It’s nearly as if there’s no single solution. Houses suck and apartments suck for completely different reasons.

          (But tbh, nearly all of the reasons you mentioned apartments suck have been maybe an issue once 10+ years of living in apartments)