Microsoft is adding a new key to PC keyboards for the first time since 1994 - eviltoast

Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards, though not yet.

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    10 months ago

    Oh cool, another useless gimmick just like the ‘Office Key’

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      10 months ago

      What about the LinkedIn key.

      That’s actually a shortcut for ctrl+alt+shift+L… that is an (unconfigurable?) hotkey for opening LinkedIn in edge.

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      10 months ago

      Actually, a dedicated key to open ChatGPT seems convenient. I don’t hate it.

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          Don’t you see? They’re fucking with the denominator. My 60% is already technically closer to 58%. If they keep adding keys, I don’t know how my mech can keep up with the shrinkflation. I can’t become one of those 50% weirdos. Microsoft is just finding more ways to ruin my life.

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          10 months ago

          Yeah and I already do. But why make it a key combo when you could just have a single dedicated key instead?

          It’s not like anyone actually uses the menu key or the right Start key anyway. 'Bout damn time Microsoft remaps them to something more useful. Next they should do the Pause/Break key. That one hasn’t been useful since the DOS days.

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            10 months ago

            We should also get a chrome key

            And a windows store key

            And a Microsoft.com link key

            A key to open minecraft

            Why not a key for launching the “windows action menu” or whatever they call it

            A key to open the control panel

            How about a key to open the settings menu?

            Why are we limiting ourselves? We should have 500 keys and at least 300 of them should be unique to windows.

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                10 months ago

                it had a few hardcore fans, a quick search for RT9450 shows people still trying to get that to work up to about 2020

                honestly i wouldn’t mind having another scroll wheel/bar on the keyboard somewhere, in the middle above the function keys might be cool

                also fyi that link can be tidied to https://www.ebay.com/itm/363221421164

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              10 months ago

              Because none of those keys are useful. AI is useful and isn’t Microsoft exclusive.

              Once keyboards start adding the key, I’d be legitimately surprised if the major Distros didn’t eventually follow suit and integrate AI into their platforms as well. Hell, it might get built right into your favorite desktop environment in a couple years.

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                10 months ago

                I get your point, AI is useful for some people, but what about the rest of us who don’t want it or use it? I genuinely use the menu key and would prefer to keep it functioning as it does and now I’m going to be forced to lose that key and now I have to deal with AI? It has no use for me. I also don’t want something actively watching and “thinking” about what I’m doing. I want my computer somewhat dumb and to only do what I tell it to. If you want a keyboard with a dedicated AI button, get one with a macro pad or something. Don’t inconvenience the rest of us by forcing a nonsensical change

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                10 months ago

                Their point was that you could just assign the scroll lock key (or whatever) to open ChatGPT instead because who the fuck uses scroll lock?

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                  10 months ago

                  Funny you say that, cause as a FL Studio user I hit that key all the time. (It switches between auto/manual scrolling of playlist, i.e. it locks/unlocks auto scrolling.)

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              10 months ago

              Yes but you’re missing my point entirely. What I’m saying is that I’m happy that Microsoft is making it official, so that I don’t have to remap anything.

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                10 months ago

                MS used to sell a keyboard with a custom button to start your web browser.

                Now that web browsing is common but that key has been removed from keyboards, do you still remap a hotkey to bring up Firefox?

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                  I’m ambivalent about all this, but I think the distinction is that a web browser button would simply open a persistent window, and therefore only really needs to be used once or twice per “session”. Copilot is designed to act more like the Start menu, in that it is opened frequently and disappears after each use.

                  That being said, and as much as I use ChatGPT myself, it’s hard to see this as anything more than an easy way to further the perception of Microsoft as first-class AI company, thereby justifying its high stock price for a corporation with limited new growth opportunities.

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                    10 months ago

                    Copilot is designed to act more like the Start menu, in that it is opened frequently and disappears after each use.

                    Copilot’s session maintains state. That is it modifies responses to your questions to get more accurate. This means it needs to be left open even more than Google.

                    Google is almost stateless. The second query you give it doesn’t immediately change based on the first query, so the old style keyboard with a web browser button is more useful than a button to launch copilot. Because you need to keep a single session open until the problem is solved or you lose all that state information.

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            10 months ago

            Hey! I do use menu key regularly! And same with pause and scroll lock! Print creen is obvious and everyone uses it. Right? Right!? RIGHT?!?

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              10 months ago

              Print screen used to be a good button for screen capture/window capture. But now the various screenshot apps do the job better. Ctrl+Prt Scr is maybe still good for being fast

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            10 months ago

            Pause is usually the compose key (diacritics starter) on Linux desktops. But I’ll agree about Scroll Lock, that one is truly useless.

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              10 months ago

              Excel uses scroll lock to make people think it’s broken lock the scroll bars in case you don’t want to be able to see the rest of your sheet