I’m no scientist, but I sure as shit remember that November was a lot colder than 20 Celsius.
Brah, go outside. It’s gets warmer every year.
I love it when I can share this
But was it a really nice big snowball?
And was this in August? Because I’d be impressed if he had one in August.
I have stopped trying with the ‘true believers’ or in this case, non-believers. They are a lost cause. Some that live on the volcano will refuse to believe it can erupt even as the lava flows over their house.
But there are those that haven’t really fallen either side of the fence that are worth paying attention too.
Back in my days it was called global warming and crime was lower, because we didn’t know crime was higher. The good old days.
Any average person who has been alive for 30 years or more will tell you climate change is real, no need for an actual scientist.
Oh, my friend…
You wildly overestimate the capabilities of the “average” person. I don’t even want to sound facetious or smug when I say that. Not even including the willful ignoring of the obvious thanks to ideology, politics, or other internally constructed mental barriers that deliberately exclude inconvenient informtion.
I mean seriously its kinda depressing taking a real look outside and seeing how bad things are
You’re overestimating some of us oldsters here. I work with people who are mostly in their 60s and 70s, and they can almost in the same sentence claim that 1) summers are hotter and winters are warmer than they used to be, and that 2) climate change is a hoax.
I recently had a talk with someone who first brushed all the political shenanigans off with “climate has always changed; that’s totally normal” and then three thoughts further tells me it’s happening faster than we could adjust to. So what now … is it natural or is it faster than normal? Because I don’t have an issue with the temperature rising a few degree over 10000 years. I do have an issue with them rising over 100 years.
I guess in that person’s defence you could hold a consistent position whilst staying both those things. They don’t appear to deny that the climate is changing and does change, they just dispute whether it’s normal for it to do that and they don’t seem describe the frequency or period of that “natural” change so they could be describing something they’ve seen happen over and over in their lifetime hence why they think it’s normal or describing something they’ve merely aware happens and this believe to be normal. They then state that it’s happening faster than we can adjust to, which depending on the rest of the conversation isn’t necessarily contradictory because, that the climate would change of its own accord for non-anthropogenic reasons can be taken as true at the same time that it might be doing so at a different pace for unknown reasons. It can be faster than normal whilst still being normal that it is doing so at all so to speak.
Although really, if they openly accept both those premises as true then it really doesn’t matter because the fact is, as they observe, the climate is changing rapidly and it’s problematic. Unless they have some better solution in mind maybe we should try and act on the levers we have actual control over.
Any average person who has been alive for 30 years or more
If they’re the type to make observations and listen, their pattern centers are freaking out. However, many are on a 9-to-5/wage slave, nose grinding life so they’re coping only when it arises, neglecting future patterns. But if they listened to experts, they could be chill.
But no, there are ostriches.
Yeah but some days are colder, so climate change isn’t real. Ever think of that?
I know plenty of olds that refuse to believe that people are causing it.
Every year when I point out to my parents that it’s unseasonably warm, they always try to rationalize it in some way, like “oh it was always like this.” Like oh my god no it wasn’t. You’re not that senile yet. But their programming is rooted so deep that they can’t see the tangible reality in front of them.
I feel like this is the case for many conservatives.
The deniers are sub-average
30 years or more
Where did you get that statistic? If anything it’s the 30- group who actually believe in climate science. My parents are 60 and don’t believe the climate is warming, despite new rules rolling out in my lifetime about extreme heat advisories. My high school started having ‘heat’ days where we had to study online at home like a snow day, 10 years ago, my school also didnt have AC
I’m 40+. I remember actual winters. With snow. Lots more snow than we’ve gotten in the last 20 years.
Exactly! 46 here I remember when we had seasons, not fucking 80 degrees in November. I remember needing a jacket to go trick or treating during Halloween. It 75 degrees today where I live for high. This shit is real, and just go look at your rivers and lakes if you want to see the real effects of climate change as well.
I grew up in Ohio in the '70s. The first snowfall was usually in late September. The ground was completely covered in snow in October and you didn’t see grass again until some time in April. The snow wasn’t completely gone until May and the giant mounds of plowed snow usually lasted into June. More than six months of serious Winter every year, nothing like that happening today.
I’m just saying young people believe in climate science and apparently thats a hot take.
30+
just feels like a irrelevant detail and wants a fight. I remember white Christmases and brown ones. No need to minimize to my experiences because I haven’t lived 40+ winters, but know damn well 110⁰ summer days. I’m just bummed that because of greedy fucks my generation will be cooked to death before our best by date, fingers crossed we start world war 3 and nuked before that.
Katie: “I’m gonna study the one place that hasn’t been corrupted by global warming, SPACE!”
Good idea! It’s much easier to cool things in space!
Why are you looking at me like that?
space is the source of the warming, so katie is basically consorting with the enemy…
i have an economics degree studying how evil space is for its lack of
capitalismclimate changeso? how much?
hold out your arms as wide as you can. about that evil
Or gearing up to combat the problem at the source!
Katie:
Why don’t we just take the planet, and move it somewhere else‽
You’re not gonna believe this…
If only conservatives actually trusted knowledge from people who bothered to learn it. Pundits are way easier to take at their word because whatever they say is short, definitive, embiggens their feelings, and confirms their biases.
This is something I’ve learned especially at work - charisma almost always wins over competence, unless you’re speaking to other experts in the field. I’ve seen people spew absolute meaningless bullshit to audiences of hundreds in a field they should know at least a bit about, these are not exactly laymen. They will eat that shit up if the person speaking is charismatic and confident, and they’ll clap like it’s the most enlightening thing they’ve ever heard.
charisma almost always wins over competence
The election of 2016 proved that point in a horrific and sobering way.
Someone got mad at me once because I described trump as charismatic. But like if that’s not what it is then what do you describe that strange stranglehold he has over the minds of his adoring base?
To me that’s what charisma means. I don’t personally find him inspiring or captivating in any way. I don’t see how people could find him charismatic, but for whatever reason they do.
So charismatic is an accurate description not of his personal qualities but of his relationship to his base.
Humans, generally speaking, tend to give more credit to facts that already aligned with their pre-conceived beliefs than facts that are not.
This isn’t exclusive to conservatives and liberals fall into this trap as well.
The problem is that Fox News and conservative media have figured out how to take advantage of it to further their agenda.
In fact, the RNC and Fox News has done an absolutely fantastic job of convincing their base that educated people shouldn’t be trusted because they are liberal.
It’s true, but also, possibly less important than the “first in, last out” epistemology that most people run on. We tend to hold whatever opinion we hear first, unless someone produces a very strong argument against it, and the longer you hold that idea before anyone challenges it, the less likely you are to change it regardless of the evidence.
Loud mouth pundits tend to be most people’s first-pass at any idea, so whether it’s true or not, they get to decide what you’re going to think for the rest of your life
does FILO differ from LIFO in any specific way?
They both describe the basic function of a stack machine
well, yeah, but in my finance career we only talked about LIFO and FIFO. FILO seems like a synonym for LIFO i guess is my question
Not appreciably.
They just think everyone on the internet is as dumb as they are.
Conservatives, completely ignorant of science yet convinced you don’t know enough of it if you don’t agree with them.
They think it’s canon lore, not a process.
They keep accusing Transpeople of going against science, when science actually agrees with trans people.
Course they keep mistaking being trans for a mental illness in which one believes they are literally a cisgendered woman, which isn’t how any trans person thinks.
I went outside and it was cold today. CHECKMATE ATHEISTS!
A PhD doesn’t impress conservatives. Conservatives despise education and historically send academics to die pretty early on after seizing complete control of a country.
Yes, now a deep education with youtuber ClimateSkepticClint49 is the kind of education that matters
Gary got his degree from Newsmax where he later went on and got a PhD from Fox News… both very prestigious propaganda accredited brainwashing sources.
Gary’s dad tenured at TrumpU.
And his mom at PragerU
He’s working hard on his SKY doctorate.
In a way it’s nice that we have people who are willing to “do the research”. It would be even better if some of them would learn enough to understand the research.
“research” in that context means “find flimsy reasons to not change my beliefs”
Well yes but the problem is they do their “research” on the flat Earth society’s Facebook page. They also tend to believe people just because they’ve got names like Dr Phil, and they will find that one crank that is prepared to go on fox news and say climate change is a lie and disregard the other 10,000 scientists.
Actually I am also a scientist and all we need to do to solve global warming is move earth’s orbit a couple million cubits out.
Bah, that’s just a sham solution pushed by big calendar to sell everyone new, bigger, calendars when the year gets longer.
big calendar is the worst, do not trust these assholes…
“When I was alive, I believed — as you do — that time was at least as real and solid as myself, and probably more so. I said ‘one o’clock’ as though I could see it, and ‘Monday’ as though I could find it on the map; and I let myself be hurried along from minute to minute, day to day, year to year, as though I were actually moving from one place to another. Like everyone else, I lived in a house bricked up with seconds and minutes, weekends and New Year’s Days, and I never went outside until I died, because there was no other door. Now I know that I could have walked through the walls.
I thought it was a big day sham to give us longer days meaning more working hours.
That would depend on how fast the planet was spinning after the orbital boost. I think the big day mob are playing the long game. First they’ll quietly support big calendar in order to first normalise the idea of boosting Earth’s orbit, then, when that plan is in motion, they’ll infiltrate the planning and engineering teams, tweak the rocket placements slightly, and when the rockets fire to increase our orbital velocity, they’ll also slow the spin just enough to lengthen the day.
The alternative is, they realise there’ll be more days per year, so they’ll get more work out of people between annual appraisals anyway. It might be that big calendar is just a front operation for big day anyway.
Lets build an array of huge engines at the equator, firing them in a timeframe around every 24 hours to raise our orbit!
Edit: KSP memories say: do this at the apoapsis for a nice circular orbit.
earth needs more struts
No, we’ll all just stand in Africa. That will throw the spin off balance and we’ll move further from the sun, somehow. Back to Africa, everyone!
