• bagsy@lemmy.world
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    Its a dog whistle for racists. What he means is “brown people will get free healthcare”. He’s a disgusting racist.piece of shit, so you have to read every word through that lens.

  • KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org
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    Goddammit. That sucks.

    You mean the government funded by OUR tax dollars actually spending OUR tax dollars ON US instead of their rich buddies, their dictator buddies, or themselves?

    (rather than our tax dollars blowing up A CHILDREN’S FUCKING SCHOOL in Iran, or shooting sailors in the water from fishing boats we sunk in Venezuela, or giving the money to genocidal mideastern shitbags wanting to own everything?)

    Yeah, I’d hate to see our money spent on keeping us alive and healthy rather than using it to fuck up the entire planet.

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    You know you’re shit when the leader of the opposition sells your party better than you can.

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      Yeah, last time that happened dude changed things around and was so popular with the people the other party had to put a rule into place to not let people elect someone more than twice.

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        Yeah, and the last time someone ran on that platform, they were elected to the Democratic ticket in the midterms by a blowout, then the Democratic party ignored the will of the voters and nominated their donor-approved candidate, who then went on to lose one of the most important elections in US history to a pedophilic Russian asset, who then dismantled the US government, sold it and every state secret to the highest bidder, ushered in an authoritarian ultra-conservative regime, and then performed a self-coup to seize and consolidate power.

        • HubertManne@piefed.social
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          look. I voted bernie in the primary but he did not win the popular vote much less blow it out and the dnc did not ignore the will of the voters. There was a lot of bs but an actual ignoring of the vote totals.

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            Wilding v. DNC is the court case where the DNC admitted that they don’t have to abide by the primaries because they are a private entity and can nominate whomever they want.

            There used to be transcripts of this everywhere.

            I’m all for everyone voting for the “lesser of two evils”. I think everyone should go vote in the primaries. I also think everyone should pay very close attention to the DNC bureaucracy and minor rule changes and what everyone around them is saying and voting for.

            Because seeing everything up close, in a world full of lies and deception, is what most people need to understand the truth. So they can make the hard decisions they will need to make.

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              The DNC arguing in court that they don’t have to abide by primary elections isn’t the same thing as the DNC actually not abiding by the primary elections. The DNC absolutely abided by the primary elections in 2016, and there’s no evidence to the contrary.

              Sure, the superdelegate system was overwhelmingly for Clinton, but Bernie was already behind in the elected delegate total. Either way, in 2018, the DNC changed the rules so superdelegates can’t even vote in the first round anymore, so will only get a vote if a convention is contested.

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                I mean, you can readin the transcripts where the attorney for the DNC says as much to the judge in open court. I am not theorizing.

                Like I said, anyone reading this should vote in the primaries and watch the DNC’s bureaucracy closely and understand what is going on, whatever that may be, for themselves.

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            I think it’s somewhere in between the two, but I followed Bernie’s advice and didn’t hold a vote in protest, because that would have been disastrous for… oh, yeah, it was.

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    And they’re horrified by that. He’s saying it to scare them. They’re always afraid of the “undeserving” getting things from tax revenue. Only their side is worthy.

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    Gonna need a link on that one (don’t necessarily doubt it - because nothing is out of the question since years ago - I just want to know and share that this was real)

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    Zero sum game thinking.

    “If other people are getting health care then there won’t be any left for me!”

    That’s why people hear that and agree / are afraid

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      No no no, you’re thinking the wrong (non-racist) way.

      "Everybody gets healthcare!’

      Means all the non white people also get healthcare. Now we wouldn’t want that, wouldn’t we?

      (This is a joke/shitpost. Universal healthcare should be available to anyone regardless of skin color)

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      My brother, staunch Republican asshole, didn’t want universal healthcare because he might have to wait longer for an appointment.

      It didn’t matter that it would cost less, have better outcomes, and people die without it. It was only about his convenience.

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        I think that argument is interesting in the US because when I lived in a very conservative area health insurance was extremely expensive and covered very little. I had to wait months to get seen by my doctors, even for urgent issues, and every time I walked through the door of my doctor’s office it cost me $200.

        Now I live in a purple area where a large amount of the population is on Medicare or Medicaid. My insurance is worlds better and hundreds of dollars a month cheaper. I’ve rarely had to wait more than a month to see my doctor and if I am waiting a long time it’s usually because the issue isn’t urgent and I’m trying to get an appointment that fits in optimally with my schedule, not just take the next available appointment.

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          He had plenty of long waits for appointments, but facts and reasoning weren’t involved.

          Case in point: A 3 month wait in Canada - must be caused by universal healthcare = healthcare rationing = bad. That same 3 month wait in the U.S. = Freedom!

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    The message is for his supporters, who don’t want everyone to have things, just a select few that they think they’re part of.

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      “We don’t want everyone to pool their resources to pay for everyone’s healthcare! We want random groups of people to pool their resources to pay a for profit middleman to pay for some of their healthcare!”

      The only explanation for being against single payer is that you want to hurt “them”. Not that you actually are, you’re hurting a whole bunch of people, probably including yourself, but you want to hurt “them”.

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        If you attribute their actions to bigotry and racism what seemed like bizarre behavior makes total sense. They’ll cut their arm off for it.

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        Yes but they want the FREEDOM to not pay at all because only COMMUNISTS need doctors.

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    Yes he did say that BUT those that fervently support him will see it differently “they will take your money and your children’s money and give free healthcare to the immigrants, give it to me i have a better plan with it” and unfortunately you can’t cure stupid no matter how much we progress in medicine.