'I'm not a progressive': Fetterman breaks with the left, showing a maverick side - eviltoast
  • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Pre-existing biases, one supposes.

    Not to mention the AIPAC campaign funding that would suddenly dry up. It amazes me how many of our elected leaders are being paid off by a foreign government

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          Jesus fucking damnit. It’s like that first moment in House of Cards when you’re like “omfg and this is the blue team?!”

          I know US Senate is as prestigious as you get after the executive election, but if this is the people’s guy, how tf we ever going to break up the two party system in the upper house?

          • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.ee
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            as soon as you say the phrase “blue team” you betray a bit of a misunderstanding. don’t feel bad, people work really hard to perpetuate that misunderstanding. the blue team doesn’t exist. the red team only kind of exists. the people you unconsciously split into the “blue team” and the “red team” are on the Money Team, and we’re not.

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                11 months ago

                all right cracking down on that “excited delirium” horseshit is eliminating a very real and very deadly police overstep. I’m into it.

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                  Dude right?? Our state is legislating against police brutality. And doing it with tools, and creating a safer space, rather than trying to get the good apples to snitch and risk their lives and careers.

                  The ebony alert sounds like white people grandstanding bullshit at first but there’s a good point… if all day you see that and rarely see amber alert… you’ll realize why black people are begging to be seen and the whole point of BLM. Plus it’s first hand experience, not pushed on people, so they can draw the conclusions themselves without getting defensive

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        11 months ago

        I forget which interview it was exactly but Ryan Grim had some information on this. He brokered a deal with AIPAC to stop them donating to his opponent and get them donating to him instead.

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        11 months ago

        Dunno specifics. but their lobby gives to pretty much everyone; so long as there for the line where Israel is concerned.

        A fair amount do the pro-Israel statements are to either protect or get more of those donations

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          11 months ago

          I don’t think so, I think it’s from misplaced sentiment and misunderstanding of some kind. Fetterman doesn’t just support Israel, he openly mocks people who are concerned about Palestinians. There was a time he ran into some protestors near DC, and he went into his office to grab an Israeli flag and wrapped himself in it, laughing at them waved it at them when they were accosted by authorities.

          Like. That’s fucked up. The article mentioned that there was a big shooting in a synagogue when he was in office, and I get the impression he’s conflating Israel with Jews in general, and he feels some sort of guilt he’s making up for.

          It’s incredibly disappointing. I was really happy with him and thought he’d be a great president. I seriously appreciated the attention he brought up mental health when he very publicly took care of himself. My father had a stroke when I was younger and had had speech issues ever since, so Fetterman’s stroke and recovery were very relatable to me on a personal level.

          Never meet your heroes, I guess.

          Edit: Some corrections after I found the article again.

          https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/22/fetterman-unbending-on-israel-confounds-this-progressive-brethren-00128502

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            Never meet your heroes, I guess.

            I wholeheartedly agree, such a disappointment. He took a very weird turn, and it was so sudden.

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              It took some time for it to sink into me just how awful his behavior was. At first I was disturbed but didn’t think I’d change my general feelings about him, but as time goes on, it really hits me just how fucked up this is of him. He’s still better than the best Republican, but damn if I don’t want to see him primaried. He’s the same as Manchin in my opinion now, just with better policies.

              Tangentially, this is also why I’m wary of self righteous politicians who don’t apologize nor admit fault. They’re probably going to be wrong about something eventually, and they’ll learn nothing from it.