Vladimir Lenin explains why you shouldn’t trust Western media - eviltoast
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    True but at the same time you don´t read particularly much about corrupt communist party bigwigs in socialist media, do you?

    You do. A lot. Like a lot a lot. Some of it’s true and some of it’s fake to gain political points.

    I agree with that but do you seriously believe that´s any different in socialism?

    You admitted yourself that people in communism advocated for capitalism. Where do you think they learnt about that?

    Universities in the USSR taught Keynesian economics alongside Marxist theory. They still teach that in China.

    Of course, that is trivial.

    It’s not trivial, it’s not benign. It’s propaganda. It formulates how people live their lives, because if that’s all they’re exposed to, then people use said story structure to plan out their own lives and to make big decisions. It is a major part of the propaganda state apparatus.

    Ain’t nobody controls the media like they do in capitalism. If you can list a piece of media for consumption, it’s probably propaganda. If you can list an organization, it probably has some purpose in the propaganda apparatus.

    Recommended reading: propaganda by Edward Bernays Inventing reality by Michael Parenti Manufactured consent by Noam Chomsky

    Recommended watching: Anything by Maggy Mae Fish

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      You do. A lot. Like a lot a lot. Some of it’s true and some of it’s fake to gain political points.

      Seriously? I honestly had no idea. Can you link me a few examples?

      Recommended reading: propaganda by Edward Bernays Inventing reality by Michael Parenti Manufactured consent by Noam Chomsky. Recommended watching: Anything by Maggy Mae Fish

      Thank you for the interesting recommendations!

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        Being open about corruption is a communist tradition. Xinhua continuously publishes articles on corruption.

        Google “English.news.cn corruption party members”

        Going back to Lenin, his works are mostly rebuttals against the policies of the second international. Stalin’s essay “burkharin’s group and the right deviation”. Khrushchev’s secret speech.

        And that’s just some of the famous ones.

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          Being open about corruption is a communist tradition. Xinhua continuously publishes articles on corruption. Google “English.news.cn corruption party members”

          Thanks for letting me know this. Very interesting.

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                This is a crucial element of Marxism. Those who weren’t very good at it unfortunately let their socialism dissolve, demonstrating why it’s so crucial and why you find a strong emphasis on it in the surviving socialist states.

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        If you’re interested and prefer to start with audio-visual, Parenti has a few lectures on his book(s) (there’s another one about entertainment media: Make-Believe Media iirc). They’re on YouTube. Alternatively a lemmygrad user made a podcast with them if you preferred that.