Why can't we delete stuff? - eviltoast

I’ll just edit instead!

  • root@aussie.zone
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    10 months ago

    Bed bugs.

    Positive outcome would be no more having to burn contaminted possessions (or wash them in very hot water many times).

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    10 months ago

    I know you said that we shouldn’t say humans but I’m gonna say it anyway:

    Humans.

    Sorry.

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      10 months ago

      Would be interesting to tally up the negative impacts of removing humans as well.

      Culls of invasive species would no longer occur, which would be detrimental in those ecosystems.

      A fairly significant number of endangered animals probably only exist today due to human intervention and breeding programs (i am well aware that we probably made them endangered in the first place)

      Cross breeds would be done as well, Ligers and Mules require humans for breeding. Although in fairness they are definitely not natural to begin with.

      Many animals we have domesticated would be done for as well, most smaller dogs are completely, reliant on humans for food and grooming. Many cats would be okay, but some breeds are likely dead ends as well. Jersey cows would probably have a bad time as well, without milking, sheep might have issues as well?

      Interesting thought experiment.

      • Deebster@lemmy.ml
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        Yeah, this is a good topic. I can add a few:

        Short term, pets in houses, farm animals, etc will need to escape and start fending for themselves otherwise they’ll starve (or dehydrate).. Oops, I’d somehow missed an entire paragraph of your post 🤦‍♂️ Sheep need us to trim their wool, because we’ve bred them up grow fair more than they need. They’ll get too hot if they don’t have problems with defecation first (an actual thing farmers have to worry about).

        Medium to long term, when dams and dikes aren’t maintained they’ll eventually fail, flooding vast areas including the Netherlands.

        I guess that the world will continue heating for a bit even once we’re gone, so we wouldn’t be around to theoretically use our tech to help. Obviously, we’re the reason it’s happening in the first place, but nature’s not equipped to deal with change that’s this rapid.

        • Yes, most of those we created through breeding, but you could argue that wolves and coyotes created modern deer the same way.

          I do wonder if many would go extinct in the medium term from predation, before they can evolve fast enough to adapt; I’m thinking farm pigs and chickens would be OK in the short term - they don’t need us to survive - but wild dogs/coyotes/wolves, large cats like the NA lions, raptors, foxes… they’d all be putting a lot of pressure on those mostly defenseless breeds. Pigs are not wild hogs. Cattle and horses exist just fine in their environments without humans. Even with predation, herds are large and they aren’t defenseless.

          Sheep are an exception; like you said, they need us to perform maintenance because of how we’ve bred them. Are there others?

          • Monkey With A Shell@lemmy.socdojo.com
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            10 months ago

            My thoughts go to a lot of our stored and operational fuel supplies. Nuclear fuel (both civil and weapon) would eventually become exposed through lack of storage container maintinance and cooling starting meltdown reactions in their localized environments. Oil extraction, distribution, and refining systems are automated to an extent but somewhere a tank is going ng to rupture or just run out of space and then it’s all getting into the environment, likely at sea to have what effects that may cause.

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        10 months ago

        Good point! Within a few weeks billions of animals would die. Chicken, pigs, cows, cats and dogs.

        We definitely need to clarify what “good for the planet” means if we want to decide on the best answer.

    • rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml
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      10 months ago

      I’m going to provide one very important reasons it would be disastrous to the ecosystem if humans were suddenly deleted from the Earth: what happens to the many currently active nuclear reactors? And what happens when Chernobyl’s sarcophagus finally corrodes entirely and exposes that radioactive blight to the entirety of Europe and central Asia? Probably nothing good is the answer.

      • cole@lemdro.id
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        10 months ago

        I would be willing to put money on “likely nothing” being the answer for active nuclear reactors. They’re highly automated from a safety perspective these days. I’d be more worried about chemical plants

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    10 months ago

    Ticks.

    They seem to just make everything worse, and I don’t think anything only eats ticks. Not to mention the diseases they carry.

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    10 months ago

    Canadian Geese, the animal that Canada stored all its rage inside and sent to battle the United States

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      If you got a problem with Canadian Goose, you got a problem with me, and I suggest you let that one marinate

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        10 months ago

        The thing about Canada geese for me is the weird little poos. I don’t mind the aggression, the flocking behavior, or any of the other antisocial nonsense that they’ve adopted from their namesake country.

        It’s the poos. They linger around for weeks.

    • Otter@lemmy.ca
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      10 months ago

      Canadian geese, Australian Emus, sounds like there’s some interesting AI image ideas here

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          10 months ago

          Oh noo, I love them both :(

          I got distracted by the wrong aspect of that comment lol

          I was picturing Canadian Geese and Australian Emus working together on… providing aid or something. Maybe not waging war

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    10 months ago

    Most positive effects on the planet but not humans?
    Cattle, they’re a major source of greenhouse gasses, as are all the industries built around growing, processing, and transporting them.

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    10 months ago

    Mosquitoes are pollinators. Sucking blood and being annoying is only a small part of their functionality.

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    Pandas. I mean, they really don’t seem like they want to exist in the first place. And China get’s to finally shut up about them.

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      10 months ago

      they really don’t seem like they want to exist

      Alternatively, they’re at peace and content with their existence. At least that’s what it seems like to me, goals really

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        Surely something else can be eaten. And there are many species of mosquito that do not eat human blood. I think we can nuke the species that does and still get by.

        Perhaps I’m under informed here.

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          I think we can nuke the species that does and still get by.

          I think people in China had similar ideas about sparrows… Nature is immensely complex and I can’t think of a single instance in which human Intervention improved anything at all

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            That’s fair. I’m entirely uninformed on the sparrows but I do understand nature is an endlessly complex system which we do not and probably can not ever truly understand. Not trying to be absolutist.

            But I do wish death on every blood sucking mosquito.

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    If you gave any random person god like powers to do whatever they wanted, they would immediately eradicate mosquitoes as their first act.

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    Cockroaches… as far as I’m aware, they don’t contribute anything to the eco system, they’re just pests.

    Unfortunatelly, not even a nuclear war can erradicate them 😒.

    • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      ‘Cockroach’ encompasses a wide range of species, the majority of which have no interest in living in a human’s home, and contribute to the work of decomposition on the forest floor. Many smaller predators also eat them.

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      They are extremely important for getting rid of dead things. Everything contributes to the ecosystem, except invasive species, OP’s premise is impossible to begin with.

      • 0x4E4F@infosec.pub
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        10 months ago

        Like really? Even pest cocroaches, they eat dead flesh 🤨? Cuz I thought they only went after good food (not rotten).

    • VapeNoir [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      One of the proposed explanations for the recent explosion in bed bug populations is the fact that pesticides have become more effective at eliminating cockroaches, which are predators of bed bug eggs

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        Hm 🤔… you know, I’ve seen roaches in the bathroom as well, and I always wondered what they were doing there, like there’s no food there. Apparently, if food is scarse, they’ll eat almost anything, dead human skin included.

        In that case, I guess they’re not that bad. Sure, they should be regulated, cuz of deseases and all that, but living in a bubble is not good as well… for the immune system I mean.

        OK, you’ve convinced me, I’m giving up on the roaches 😂.

  • CALIGVLA@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I hate to say it, but getting rid of mosquitos would probably have bigger consequences than that. The females are the only ones sucking blood, the males on the other hand help pollinate plants, exterminating them could potentially affect our food production lines…

    … But not gonna lie I’d still genocide the fuckers, ecological damage be damned.

    • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca
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      You don’t need to eliminate all mosquitos, just the ones that bite people.

      There are dozens of different species of mosquitos, and not all of them bite people. If you get rid of the ones that bite people the others will likely still fill in as pollinators for those that are no longer competing with them.

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        Yes… But then more humans will survive by avoiding certain diseases, which as a result, will produce a worse environmental outcome

        • JustinTheGM@ttrpg.network
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          Eh, kill off 3 or 4 billionaires per year and you’ll counteract whatever additional environmental damage comes from millions of people not dying from malaria.

    • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Only the females of a tiny fraction of species, and only when they need to produce eggs, stuck blood.