In practice? Mods abuse their power here at similar rates as those on reddit.
It’s good we have the modlog to see for ourselves why moderation teams shouldn’t be taken seriously, but it hasn’t stopped them from doing what they want, when they want.
It’ll be nice when people start recognizing the need for open discussion and we get more fediverse instances that allow freedom of speech.
I have seen disagreements with dishonesty used for social movements be spun into bigotry, and mods buying that and banning, despite clear bad faith attacks with no basis.
Call someone a bigot of some kinds it immediately shuts down and cancels any points until the accused goes on the defensive.
Those using this tactic in bad faith, like many mods, are cynical pieces of shit. They do not care they are hurting the goals of the movement, just about their place in it as a shit slinger.
The Lemmy world news sub is a trans rights echo chamber.
I fully support trans rights and hate the rhetoric against them. People should be allowed to live their lives the way they feel comfortable within reason and law.
But Jesus. I blocked world news when I got into it with an mod who said I’m a transphobe when I brought up a trans issue. Sighted that I had multiple downvoted comments as a slight against me.
If you can’t listen to criticism get off the internet.
I had the same thing, because I thought they were being too vicious against people like author JK Rowling’s while people like Kirk went around talking shit with impunity that was labeled trans hate.
There was Zero plausibility, I called out what I think is an overly aggressive in some parts campaign that has made things worse and was immediately accused of being a bigot myself and then blocked and canceled. No discussion or mod notes just your banned.
People learn they can shut down criticisms with bigotey accusations no matter how flimsy and they use it. Meanwhile they lost the larger cultural fight while they were falsley accusing allies of bigotry. As always on a left purposefully played off each other by organized interests.
Yea one of the admins/founders of this platform, I think his username is Davel(?) is SUPER pro-censorship of whatever he doesn’t like and will just remove non-violative stuff that doesn’t conform to his myopic worldview. There’s definitely still tyrannical mods/admins here, but credit where it’s due to the founders — it’s easy enough to just make a new account or find a new instance lol.
Considering you’re a one day account I’ll take your experience with a pinch of salt, but in my experience it’s all a matter of what instance you choose to reside in and what communities you wish to host.
The instance server hosts of lemmy are under no obligation to have no restrictions and allow anyone to post anything under their service. On that same token, no one is stopping you from making your own instance and calling your own shots.
Reddit does not and will never allow you to do this. They’re centralized, a single entity that can be brought down with enough bad press and have an incentive to maintain control without much restraint. The opposite is true here: you can sign up anywhere, and people actively want their communities to be visited so there’s a reason people play nice to be federated. Instances that let anyone say anything or refuse to moderate tend to be de-federated.
The modlog exists for transparency, and what you may consider abusive moderators is justifiable in another user’s eyes. If you’re fed up, migrate, or make your own instance with blackjack and hookers.
The mythical “free speech server” you are looking for is essentially 4chan, and you probably understand why not many want to create a clone of that model here.
Idk if federated alternatives are to reach critical mass we would need instances that have a clear set of rules, that you could challenge if a moderator applied them unfairly, and even opted for a trial amongst your peers for if it was against the rules. Allowing moderators to be Petty tyrants in a feudalistic system attracts the wrong people that will prevent the fedivers from achieving it’s destined Glory.
Likewise moderators found to be abusing their power should have some means of correcting their behavior or removing them. Other moderators cannot be trusted for this, they all protect each other’s rights to be dicks so they can be dicks. We need a better system set up better to start.
The modlog is pretend transparency. Basically every single mod action hides which mod took action, and most of the reasons given are extremely vague “Rule 1” or “trolling” type messages.
Theoretically, anything.
In practice? Mods abuse their power here at similar rates as those on reddit.
It’s good we have the modlog to see for ourselves why moderation teams shouldn’t be taken seriously, but it hasn’t stopped them from doing what they want, when they want.
It’ll be nice when people start recognizing the need for open discussion and we get more fediverse instances that allow freedom of speech.
I have seen disagreements with dishonesty used for social movements be spun into bigotry, and mods buying that and banning, despite clear bad faith attacks with no basis.
Call someone a bigot of some kinds it immediately shuts down and cancels any points until the accused goes on the defensive.
Those using this tactic in bad faith, like many mods, are cynical pieces of shit. They do not care they are hurting the goals of the movement, just about their place in it as a shit slinger.
The Lemmy world news sub is a trans rights echo chamber.
I fully support trans rights and hate the rhetoric against them. People should be allowed to live their lives the way they feel comfortable within reason and law.
But Jesus. I blocked world news when I got into it with an mod who said I’m a transphobe when I brought up a trans issue. Sighted that I had multiple downvoted comments as a slight against me.
If you can’t listen to criticism get off the internet.
I had the same thing, because I thought they were being too vicious against people like author JK Rowling’s while people like Kirk went around talking shit with impunity that was labeled trans hate.
There was Zero plausibility, I called out what I think is an overly aggressive in some parts campaign that has made things worse and was immediately accused of being a bigot myself and then blocked and canceled. No discussion or mod notes just your banned.
People learn they can shut down criticisms with bigotey accusations no matter how flimsy and they use it. Meanwhile they lost the larger cultural fight while they were falsley accusing allies of bigotry. As always on a left purposefully played off each other by organized interests.
Yea one of the admins/founders of this platform, I think his username is Davel(?) is SUPER pro-censorship of whatever he doesn’t like and will just remove non-violative stuff that doesn’t conform to his myopic worldview. There’s definitely still tyrannical mods/admins here, but credit where it’s due to the founders — it’s easy enough to just make a new account or find a new instance lol.
Is this allowed?
(grabs popcorn 👀)
I’m not on Reddit.
Considering you’re a one day account I’ll take your experience with a pinch of salt, but in my experience it’s all a matter of what instance you choose to reside in and what communities you wish to host.
The instance server hosts of lemmy are under no obligation to have no restrictions and allow anyone to post anything under their service. On that same token, no one is stopping you from making your own instance and calling your own shots.
Reddit does not and will never allow you to do this. They’re centralized, a single entity that can be brought down with enough bad press and have an incentive to maintain control without much restraint. The opposite is true here: you can sign up anywhere, and people actively want their communities to be visited so there’s a reason people play nice to be federated. Instances that let anyone say anything or refuse to moderate tend to be de-federated.
The modlog exists for transparency, and what you may consider abusive moderators is justifiable in another user’s eyes. If you’re fed up, migrate, or make your own instance with blackjack and hookers.
The mythical “free speech server” you are looking for is essentially 4chan, and you probably understand why not many want to create a clone of that model here.
Idk if federated alternatives are to reach critical mass we would need instances that have a clear set of rules, that you could challenge if a moderator applied them unfairly, and even opted for a trial amongst your peers for if it was against the rules. Allowing moderators to be Petty tyrants in a feudalistic system attracts the wrong people that will prevent the fedivers from achieving it’s destined Glory.
Likewise moderators found to be abusing their power should have some means of correcting their behavior or removing them. Other moderators cannot be trusted for this, they all protect each other’s rights to be dicks so they can be dicks. We need a better system set up better to start.
The modlog is pretend transparency. Basically every single mod action hides which mod took action, and most of the reasons given are extremely vague “Rule 1” or “trolling” type messages.