Why it seems a majority of political communities are left-sided? - eviltoast

Idk, doesn’t matter where I go, be it Political Memes, Politics, Elon Musk Spam, etc, it seems everyone hates on capitalism all together-

  • TheYojimbo@lemmy.world
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    Because capitalism is burning the earth down for profit and if nothing is done we’re all dead soon ?

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      we’re all dead soon

      That’s a bit… extreme. We’re all going to be dead soon? You mind elaborating a bit?

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        Climate change, sea level rising, populations moving to an already overpopulated land mass, wars, pandemics… Capitalism is killing us slowly but surely. And “soon” is a figure of speech, it might take a while but compared to humanity span it’s soon enough. Some might survive, but on the long term humanity is running head first into a wall. We might have the time to change course and only get a few bruises, but the no return point is way past.

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          Well like everything, capitalism too has its downsides and there’s plenty to improve on, but it’s quite difficult to see how ending capitalism and replacing it with what ever you think it should be replaced with would end stuff like wars or pandemics. Ending capitalism would definitely end certains issues caused by it, but along would come a set of new issues we’re probably not having to deal with now.

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            capitalism too has its downsides and there’s plenty to improve on

            No I think you don’t understand. Capitalism allows rich people to get richer by exploiting the resources of the earth at the expand of the climate and poor people altogether. It’s not something that can be improved, it’s something that needs to be stopped ASAP.

            And there isn’t ONE solution to “replace” capitalism, like communism or socialism or whatever, it’s all about solutions to each problems : ban private jets, yacht, and stuff like that ; taxing the rich to stop them hoarding all the wealth, more carbon taxes to force companies into being more eco friendly, banning stuff made by slavery, children, and underpaid workers in far countries, favor locally grown goods, raise the minimum wage, etc.

            It’s gonna be hard for everyone but it’s the only way to stop fucking everything up. Capitalism is a cancer that needs to be removed or it will grow until it kill its host. Only the rich will survive, all of us will die slowly.

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              You first say it’s not something that can be improved and then you list a bunch of ways to improve it. This is exactly my point.

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                If you want, but we need to get rid of the capital, stock markets, and all other stuff defining capitalism for this shit to work. Capitalism is based on infinite growth, it’s not sustainable.

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                  …and replace them with what? I mean, it’s a nice fantasy that’s there’s abundance of everything, nothing costs anything and we’re all just dancing in a circle singing kumbaya happily ever after. However, if you really want to live in a world like that, then you need to come up with some system of economy to produce this abundance. Now you’re just listing things you want to get rid of but you’re giving none and I literally mean zero suggestions how to get there.

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    Most people dislike that everything is being dragged down for profit margins instead of taking care of humanity

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    Because a majority of people are left sided. There’s a reason Trump hasn’t been able to win a popular vote, he’s not actually that popular. He might seem it in uneducated redneck towns, but it takes about 100 of those towns to match the population of a decent city, which typically votes left.

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    Capitalism and the right is literally against humanity for the benefit of the very few. You’ll wake up eventually

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    Because a lot of tech culture is based upon the idea of sharing things with people, of enabling others, of bringing down barriers, of helping other people reach their potential. This is why open source communities are so prevalent, and even commercial tech offerings are sold to us with these ideals.

    And all that is antithetical to many right wing policies, which are often about creating barriers and unneccessary limitations. Like DeSantis’s Don’t Say Gay laws. Or the defunding of community services like educational institutes. Or placing barriers on voting.

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    To try to give you a genuine answer, perhaps because 1) Lemmy is a left leaning environment generally, 2) if you’re American, because the majority of the western and 1st world countries are dramatically more left leaning than the US (I live in Canada, and your democrats are more right wing than our main right wing political party)

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      I live in Canada, and your democrats are more right wing than our main right wing political party

      The same is true when comparing these ‘democrats’ to the main right wing political parties of any European country.

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      here in NZ, our last right-wing leader laughed aloud when asked if he was religious, on national tv, and said no.

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    We just witnessed the hottest summer on record. This corroborates what scientists have said for decades, that emissions are bringing about ecological collapse. For those of us who possess a moral compass, this means we need people in leadership who are serious about saving the planet.

    What are YOU doing to help, with your one vote?

    If you vote right-wing, the simplest explanation is that you’re not forward-thinking enough to grasp the impending danger.

    Do better, please. There are plenty of information sources out there.

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      Very well stated 👍 My version would be a little simpler though…

      “Hey, let’s throw more money at the planet, see if it cares…”

      Money means squat if we’re not doing the right things for the wet blue marble we live on.

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    The Internet has been dominated by ND, queer and trans folk since as far as I can remember; and the right tends to want us to not exist. So… Fuck them. 🖕🖕

    I stand with the side that doesn’t think I’m an abomination because I love men as well as women.

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    older, wealthy, not so terminally online people are overrepresented amongst the political right. young people, who are typically less wealthy, and who identify more with things that have only recently become more socially acceptable, such as alternate sexuality or gender, are typically less served by the political right, and since they have a much larger online presence, the views they hold are much more accepted and voiced in most online spaces.

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    Honest answer the right doesn’t seem to have any good positions now. They are against fighting climate change, against tolerance, anti-science, and they speak of fiscal responsibility but instead of tax and spend they just spend. They are way too much into mindless defiance and dirty politics. And they are the most hypocritical “do as I say, not as I do” party IMO.

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      Thanks, you are civilized, different from the others, also, yeah, I know that the US right wing is batshit insane, but yeah, I don’t agree in capitalism = bad, I like the way it works, but we should actually focus on decreasing inequality and give opportunity to everyone

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        I didn’t mention capitalism but meant to, I think capitalism itself is great but like so many other things it needs limits. Huge mega corporations have a lot of disadvantages for the environment, competitors, customer service, and consumer choice.

  • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠@midwest.social
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    Because the type of people satisfied with the status quo are not, in general, the kind of people who are early adopters of anything new.

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    It’s possible that Lemmy in general is leftist because the people who came here wanted faster and more effective moderation against hate speech whereas more right wing people didn’t have a particularly strong need or desire for moderation.

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      I guess you never saw the amount of bans r/conservative issued to keep their hate train echo chamber rolling

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      The left wants to be free from the right. The right needs toe left to troll. right wingers hate being around themselves and no one else

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      (…)because the people who came here wanted faster and more effective moderation against hate speech

      Interesting, as Lemmy (especially lemmy.ml) was created actually for the opposite reason - less “censorship” (of developers’ Communist, “Marxist-Leninist” views). That’s how e.g. mod logs came up. And Beehaw (one of Lemmy instances) has complained about lack of moderation instruments.
      And the migration from Reddit was unlike that from Twitter. Spez ruined Reddit for anyone, Musk more for left wing and minorities.
      Rightwingers more likely to return to current Reddit? I am seeing no clue to this.