Teens have access to vastly more potent cannabis than their parents had at their age. Parents need to understand the risks, including psychosis
Teens have access to vastly more potent cannabis than their parents had at their age. Parents need to understand the risks, including psychosis
This article blows. “Genetically modifying” cannabis for higher THC content? You mean breeding, like every other plant grown for consumption?
Listen, I tell my countrymen all the time: we want to legalize, but only "low grade* to “mid grade”. I.e not high grade. We’re kind of strict though, almost dry state. Why?
Skunk and the likes have been bred to maximize THC content at the cost of the CBD content. The problem there being that THC is psychoactive and in strong amounts can even be sort of psychedelic, whereas CBD is an antipsychotic that counteracts the negative effecta THC has.
The bigger nut though - and this is the frustrating part - THC can never actually cause psychosis, but can bring out latent psychotic tendencies or be part and parcel of bringing onset psychosis - but a drunken stooper or even an intense run could do that too.
When it comes to high grade tho: do not fuck around with it. If you’ve never tried cannabis, make sure you don’t get a skunk type strain or anything that is deemed “heavy”. It’s not necessary anyway, it’s just a stupid trend between bros to try to out stone or out high each other. “Ooo, I’m the most high! ha ha ha ha”
It’s been an arms race between breeder for decades now regarding maximizing THC content, but let me just say gtfo here with that noise. Give me a working man’s spliff any day, thank you very much. We’re supposed to function as well.
As a daily smoker I agree. Strong stuff is really fucking bad cause people have no temperance due to hit delay and almost always over do it.
The key to recreational cannabis, like any drug, is temperance and small doses make it so much harder to fail here.
Also the effects of extreme concentrations imo are borderline heroin-like as it’s just escapism rather than enhancer. I really dont get dabbing and other high concentration cannabis use - that goes against everything weed is all about.
It’s really bad if the wrong person gets a hold of it too. Suddenly latent psychosis gets triggered - which could have been healed by itself over the years, but instead destroys a life that then will become a burden to their family and the welfare system. It’s also what could lead us right back to criminalization.
Most of the irresponsible stoners in this thread don’t get that, because that care only about themselves, but as a civilized society we can’t just let that stuff run rampant.
Yeah, I used to be very libertarian with drugs but some people just suck and our society in no way ready to support and educate everyone just yet.
Its a really hard position to take as there’s no clear path here unless we spend billions on drug education and support which no one’s going to do unfortunately.
I think the next best thing we can do is regulate distribution, decriminalize possession and push education. This includes educating people how powerful and controlling high thc substance can be and taking articles like this seriously like any real psychonaut would.
I strongly disagree with that view. The stronger the strain, the less you have to smoke or vape to get a desired effect. Smoking, in particular, has well-documented side effects, including COPD.
Your beliefs about the psychopharmacology of THC and CBD are simplistic. The actual mechanisms (and number of different cannabinoids involved) are far more complex.
Go ahead and choose the strength that suits you, but don’t presume that gives you the right to impose that choice on others.
I second your position. I’m a recreational user, but my girlfriend has chronic pain and a medical card. If we take the same dosage, I can be halfway to my limit while she’s only just starting to feel a high. If only low-potency cannabis were available, I can’t imagine the dosages she’d have to consume. If it were too weak, it wouldn’t be an option for her at all.
At least with high-potency cannabis, she is able to avoid opioids, which would be far more dangerous for her.
That’s fine to have your own opinion but don’t restrict my rights to grow the stickiest of the icky. Sometimes I want to roast a fat joint and be functional. Sometimes I just want to sleep without toking for a half hour. One hit shit absolutely has its place, and with accurate labeling, you can be the judge.
It’s not opinion, you irresponsible doofus, but verifiable fact at this point - hence the article.
You can’t prevent people from growing it themselves at home no, but selling high grade over the counter? Heeeell no. Not in my country.
That would get cannabis super banned almost instantly after legalization, which would be dumb, counter productive - and irresponsible.
And if you went around distributing it without clearly informing of it’s THC/CBD ratio and the implications thereof?
Straight to jail - because it could be a costly, irresponsible form of stupid, that could cause harm to someone else and lasting damage to them - all because “that shit be hype”?
One year in prison. Same as when selling ethanol. No exceptions.
“One hit shit”. You mean noisy, loud, tweak head shit. Why not skip a step and go straight to meth? Maybe synthesize a concentrate you can inject straight into your groin even. Call it groinnabis. Smh.
Say you’ve never been to a legal dispensary without saying you’ve never been to a legal dispensary.
I’ve been to cannabis dispensaries in five different states. Never have I ever seen anything sold without clear labeling of the THC/CBD ratio (as well as listing percentages of various other terpenes), but also every container features a warning about health risks. The high potency products I’ve bought all contain labels that specifically highlight their strength, and warn about an increased risk of psychosis.
Yeah, it would be nice if there could be more specific information on the labels, or a unified authority across the US to enforce standards across states. Unfortunately, anti-cannabis zealots have done well to hold back research by keeping cannabis illegal, while simultaneously using lack of research as a reason for keeping it illegal.
…can you read? I wasn’t talking about dispensaries. I was talking about home grown high grade - but also: high grade in general would be illegal in my country based on how we already regulate other drugs.
Not that you give AF about your countrymens well being, which we know you don’t when you intimate that you would actively grow skunk and distribute to people without warning people about the THC content - because you’re an absolute irresponsible sociopath.
Or, you can’t read.
Which one is it?
I said it should be tested and labeled properly so consumers can make their own decisions. The article sucks, it’s not “verifiable fact”. Hit me with those peer reviewed studies in a journal worth a shit if it’s such a fact.
You want people who would like to use strong cannabis have to go to the black market instead of buying something tested and labeled over the counter and making an informed decision.
Are you in full honest making the argument equivalent to “people should only drink beer and wine. Even imagining spirits is equivalent to jumping off a bridge”?
Me? No, I’m not. That’s the argument of the person I’m responding to.
Dammit I hit the wrong guy
They could grow it themselves and not distribute it without telling people what it contained…
This is why high grade is bad, because it impedes ones reading retention - apparently.
Do you realize how complex proper sampling is, or expensive the testing is? Ideally you’re also going to be looking for bacterial and fungal growth as well. I see no reason that high potency cannabis - also the most efficient in terms of energy for light/cooling, water usage, fertilizer usage per quantity THC - shouldn’t be commercially available, tested to pharmaceutical standards, and regulated to permit users to make responsible decisions.
Arguing for low potency cannabis is forcing others to be wasteful because you can’t regulate your own consumption. I don’t get absolutely stupid with strong weed or extracts, it’s just nice to not have to smoke an entire gram joint before bed. A few hits is all I need.
Grow… it… yourself… but do not distribute WITHOUT… informing… of THC content…
Got that, cookie? Does it enter into your skull? Do you understand why? Of course not.
Do you ignore the article because it doesn’t suit your agenda? Yes. Are you a licensed neurologist? No. Are you a licensed therapist? No. Do you understand why it’s a problem? No. Do you care? No. Are you a selfish little goblin? Yes…
The anti-weed agents are out in full force these days. Dishonest pieces of shit! “It’s weed, so you might as well do meth.” Get out of here, narc. This is what they have to do to hurt marijuana.
But walking into any store and legally buying a lethal amount of alcohol is cool and legal
Not if it’s 60 proof - not in my country anyway. Then you’d go to jail - and I’d say the same should be for high grade.
My case is still - if you bothered to read - that high grade should remain illegal, but that low to mid grade should be legalized.
Why bother using words? Maybe I should just smash my face on my phone. Seems to be working for you guys.
In what country is 60 proof illegal? No vodka, whiskey, rum, basically any spirits? Seems like a nanny state situation, if someone wanted to get drunk they can just drink twice as much sugary liqueur to get there… why should the government term them what form to use.
That said, I do agree for cannabis. The fact there is no percievable difference when using it makes it dangerous. But with alcohol over 80 proof like most spirits is pretty obvious. In fact I think theres a higher risk with the sweet liqueurs at 23% because theyre easy to drink
It sort of is a “nanny state”… or a welfare state. In any case, its to prevent deaths caused by dehydration. 60 is allowed, but everything upwards is not.
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Stupor.
Beware of the gEneTiC MoDifICaTiOn!!!
I like my genes pure, unmodified whatsoever - just the way they arise from the primordial soup.
Mmm, soup…
Oh no! The GMOz!
And many that aren’t! Ornamental, like flowers, are also bred for hardiness or to look pretty!
But it’s also not discrediting the post…
You can crossbreed anything till it becomes lethal. This is part of it. If crossbreed beyond reasonable strain? You now have a problem if it enters the market.
You could smoke a garbage bag full of weed and it wouldn’t be lethal. Try again.
Idk, smoke it all at once and the lack of O2 might kill you through the smoke. But that’s not the THCs fault
That’s what I heard happened to the chimps they were testing to determine it’s lethality. They suffocated.
They don’t care about the accuracy of their words. They have no clue how much weed you would have to smoke for it to kill you, if it would even be possible. And when they realize just how little people really are smoking compared to that standard, they should have no complaints at all! It’s not lethal.
You and the other person missed the point entirely…
No one is saying weed was lethal. But the way it’s being manipulated now, could lead to something bad. Lethal is obviously an extreme example, bu t I assumed people could connect the dots… Unfortunately we’re basically on reddit, zero critical thinking and my opinion vs your opinion!!!
I’m sick of this.
You said it yourself 🤦♂️:
“You can crossbreed anything till it becomes lethal.”
Don’t take me for a fool. For being so anti-weed, it’s you with the memory problems!
Your whole argument is that growers can selectively breed for strength. That’s been done for as long as smokable cannabis has divereged from hemp. With proper labeling and testing, that’s not a problem unless some form of lethality or other risk does emerge as a property of weed. So far it hasn’t. Until then, it’s all hypothetical.
Until it’s no longer hypothetical. It won’t be the breeding that pushes it. It’ll be laced with something and that will push it over.
The solution to this is to legalise it and regulate, but ofc that’s not happening… “We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas”, weed is the prime example of this saying.