'People Will Not Forget': Fury as Schumer Caves to Trump-Musk Destruction - eviltoast
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    14 hours ago

    Brother, sister, or other in the current context it’s a clear joke to show who is the “Dominant” and who is the “submissive”. If you understand current social dynamics, youd know that. Now we can have a conversation on if that’s appropriate considering the view is shaped by human histories use of rape as a weapon, especially when subjecting others, but that’s getting so unnecessarily deep. I can just understand this is a joke using modern social dynamics.

    Also, I’m Bi. I’ve been with two guys throughout my years. Or do I get to have another conversation on how I’m not actually gay?

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      5 hours ago

      …i know? obviously it’s that, nobody was debating that fact. my point is that the automatic agreement that having sex with men makes you submissive is inherently homophobic.

      imagine if instead if the insult was like, “he’s such a woman, i bet he loves cooking, cleaning and looking after republicans!”, I imagine you’d correctly interpret the sexism in there. the original message was homophobic in the same way.

      and i don’t care how gay you are or aren’t, you have zero authority to tell people that they’re not allowed to find something discriminatory

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        2 hours ago

        I mean yeah, that would get the same point across? The specific use of the word woman makes that sexist. So your example is disingenuous. At no time did op call Schumer gay.

        Leave out the woman part and it is the same joke, with the same implications, but no sexism. Much like there is no homophobia in the original joke. Understanding social norms and implications isn’t homophobic.

        I have every authority to tell you what I find discriminatory. You’re welcome to tell me you feel insulted by what I say, and if we were actually in the real world I would be sure to avoid such jokes around you (if we interacted on a consistent basis). But I’m my circle, this is a nothing burger.

        It’s like a Trump supporter would get offended when you make fun of Trump’s tiny hands. Should we do our best to avoid offendeding them? Or are there certain people it’s ok to offend?

        Maybe we avoid making the joke because it might offended people with tiny hands? The joke works because it bothers Trump, not because there is anything with tiny hands. But hey just because some people might get upset it’s not an ok joke to use.

        This is the Internet. This is a melting pot of different people. I’m not gonna tailor every joke and every response to your sensibilities, or anyone else’s. Grow up.