First Bird Flu Death in U.S. Reported in Louisiana - eviltoast
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    How does the thoughts and prayers contingent not recognize that every time Trump takes office the world sends a plague? Isn’t that in their handbook as being significant?

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      Yes it means the demonic Democrats are trying to engineer a virus to turn everyone against oir Lord and Savior: Billionaire Jesus

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      What Pandemic was there in 2017? Because the brunt of Covid mostly was during Bidens term.

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        So 2020, which by your inaccurate account, was the start of covid. When dealing with a global disease that has the potential to overload the medical system prior to getting a vaccine, what year do you think is the most important?

        Of course Trump couldnt have stopped covid from destroying the rest of the world. But he could have lessened its impact on the US. Instead, he thought it would magically dissappear by easter. Due to his cult of personality, people were explicitly attempted to spread covid. He constantly undercut what actual scientists and health experts were stating, in favor of pushing ivermectin and hydroxychloroquin, both of which have been shown to be ineffective in treating covid, and can actually make your issues worse. He failed in his response to covid across the board and reaulted in hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths.

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        Per the CDC

        “January 20, 2020

        CDC reports the first laboratory-confirmed case of the 2019 Novel Coronavirus in the U.S. from samples taken on January 18 in Washington state and on the same day activates its Emergency Operations Center (EOC) to respond to the emerging outbreak.“

        I guess the first time around the world was just as surprised that there were enough morons to elect him. This time the world was more on the ball.

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      Not really, they caught it from wild birds. There’s still no human to human transmission. Stop kissing birds y’all

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        I have a flock of ducks, but they have no contact with wild birds, thankfully. Their outdoor pen has a roof that prevents birds from coming in and the two mated pairs of hawks that live nearby eat nearly all of the wild birds. I was bummed about the lack of songbirds and all that until I realized my flock is much safer being some of the few living birds around lol. So far none of my ducks have died from mysterious illness. Every death has had a clear cause, thankfully. Doesn’t make it easier emotionally to lose one of them, but I haven’t had to even consider culling the flock. I hope that I never have to do that.

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      That depends on whether the virus starts spreading human-to-human with each infected person infecting more than one other person.

      If it does not, then things look like the SARS outbreak in 2002-2004, where a few people get sick, and a few people die.

      If it starts spreading with R₀ > 1, then pretty much everybody gets it, and a significant number die.

      We could reduce the risk of the latter with measures like:

      • Actively test all dairy herds
      • Vaccinate dairy workers, and regularly test them for infection
      • Quarantine those who are infected
      • Ban the sale of unpasteurized milk and crack down on existing black-market distribution of it

      However, it seems really unlikely that we’ll actually do so.

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        • Ban the sale of unpasteurized milk and crack down on existing black-market distribution of it

        RFK jr will help out here, right?

        /s

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          I’m’ from Europe and drink fresh milk daily, eat Camembert and other unpasteurised cheeses, and raw meat (filet américain), never had any issue. Of course it’s not for young children and pregnant women… do you Americans see this the same way we consider drinking tap water in India ?

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            What part of Europe? Is you food coming from a very long input chain with many inputs? The chances of contamination increases with each input source and every additional step in the delivery process.

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        OP, you seem smart.

        I am a low income person on the verge of moving because my finances are so bad. I was considering moving to a place with a shared bathrooms and over 10 people living in the building. The deposit on the place so far is a trivial amount and I can abandon the lease without significant consequence. I work remotely.

        I am trying not to be irrationally concerned by click bate, but also would prefer not to die as a result of bird flu during the next year if that’s a possibility. I’m not sure if this is a “when not if” situation or if the new media and government keep bringing this up but realistically the chances are low. I am generally good at parsing out bullshit from genuine data, but am at a loss with this one.

        Do you think it would be a mistake to move into this new place? I am already feeling reluctant because it’s in a less urban area and I don’t really like critters. I could abandon it and try to get a cheap place in a different area with my own bathroom. Please let me know if you happen to see this what you think.

        Assume that I find 30 percent risk of bird flu spreading in the next year with a R value greater than 1 to be the point at which I abandon this move.

        I have also even considered things like just leasing a car, living in it, and trying to head as far north as possible, find some place to rent in the middle of nowhere or make a campsite and start hoarding food somehow. (This would involve more critters, unfortunately, but they likely don’t pose an existentialist threat.) If everyone is going to get this bird flu thing and many die, it seems like severe isolation may be the best way to survive.

        Please help.

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      Frankly, there’s nothing to worry about right now. The concern is the potential for a new flu variant to emerge that the public has little to no existing immunity for, however that variant has not emerged and is not very likely to emerge, there just exists a small chance that it may. The only thing you should be doing is keeping your distance from birds and getting your flu shot.

      This specific death happened to an elderly person with a bunch of other health conditions, which is common for the flu. Thousands of people die from the flu every year, and it doesn’t make the news. What you can be sure of is that H5N1 stories are generating clicks for the media.

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          This is incorrect. I linked the data in my comment. '21-'22 saw the fewest flu deaths in recent memory, but there were still almost 5000 documented cases.

          Edit: Totally missed that '20-'21 was missing from this data. Turns out the CDC didn’t issue estimates for that season

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      With the dearth of migrant labor to perform the culls, an indentured servant class that owe their homes to Tyson chicken, and a polar vortex It’s not looking good. We’d be very lucky to avoid another pandemic.

      I would avoid all poultry products to ease the strain on the industry. With Covid rates also rising I would mask up on public transit and any enclosed space at work.

      My issue is I do not trust RFK to allow the FDA and CDC to do their job.