Despite our differences in social upbringing, nationality, language, religion, etc... We all agree in 1 thing, that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie, right? - eviltoast

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    3 hours ago

    This is such an exhausting topic. Anyone saying it isn’t a Christmas movie either hasn’t seen it recently enough to remember it or they’re being contraian. It takes place during Christmas, a Christmas party even. It has Christmas music woven into the soundtrack. The b plot is the main character fixing his marriage (a common theme of Christmas movies is fixing families).

    To be honest, I sort of would view people arguing that it isn’t a Christmas movie like people arguing Red One isn’t a Christmas movie because it is primarily an action movie. Red One is more obvious due to the marketing and the fact it’s literally about saving Santa after he is kidnapped, but it’s still very moreso an action movie than other similar titles (The Santa Clause also has a kidnapped Santa subplot and a team of elite elves rescue him, but it is much more minor).

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    I don’t wanna be the party pooper here, but Die Hard is a specifically American Christmas Movie. I’m not saying that other people can’t or shouldn’t enjoy it as a Christmas Movie if so inclined.

    But as a German what we “traditionally” watch as Christmas Movies/Shows is something completely different (though also varying greatly from region to region and family to family. I for one still enjoy “Weihnachten bei den Hoppenstedts” a lot my father mostly insists on seeing “Familie Heinz Becker feiert Weihnachten”. A movie a lot of people consider to be a Christmas Movie as far as I can tell is “Drei Haselnüsse für Aschenbrödel”.

    Again I’m not saying that people can’t consider “American” Christmas Movies as their own or make them their traditions a friend of mine insists that “In Bruges” is the ultimate Christmas Movie. I just think saying “We all agree” is making it to simple

    Edit: Read some more comments and maybe I misunderstood the premise. I’m not saying “Die Hard is not a Christmas Movie” what I’m trying to say is “Christmas Movies are what people make their Christmas Movie regardless of if they are Christmas-y” if I started watching Shrek at every Christmas it would be my Christmas Movie. But I feel what OP wanted to say was “There are Movies that are considered Christmas Movies because of the content and Die Hard should be considered one of them”.

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      I think the joke is that Die Hard obviously isn’t a traditional Christmas movie. But the story is literally set at Christmas. Many people like Die Hard more than traditional Christmas movies, so when their family members start voting om which Christmas movie to watch this year, they steadfastly nominate Die Hard with the argument that “it really is a Christmas movie, the internet agrees”

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      what I’m trying to say is “Christmas Movies are what people make their Christmas Movie regardless of if they are Christmas-y”

      It’s more Christmasey than you may remember, when is the last time you watched it?

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    There is definitely a demand for such movies on Christmas, otherwise a movie like Fatman wouldn’t have been produced. It’s a Christmas movie with Die Hard elements.

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      I find the topic exhausting because Did Hard is obviously a Christmas themed action movie (and I believe that qualifies as a Christmas movie), but everyone really making a stand about it is sort of being cringe. I don’t really know how to explain it. It’s like they’re acting like it’s so wild and crazy to say, like they’ve found some weird loop hole. I think it’s this weird tone of the discussion that leads to the pushback. Because, while it’s definitely a Christmas movie, it’s not like super Christmas-y. The Christmas aspects could easily be edited out and the movie would still make sense.

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    15 hours ago

    Diehard is 100% a Christmas movie, however, Die Hard 2 which also takes place at Christmas time, is NOT a Christmas movie, as the fact that it’s Christmas is coincidental and not at all integral to the plot.

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      14 hours ago

      Christmas being part of the plot is irrelevant - The Wizard of Oz is a Christmas movie. I think what makes Diehard a Christmas movie is simply that people like to watch it at Christmas.

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          12 hours ago

          About 75 years of tradition - until the 3 major TV networks lost their dominance it was always on during Christmas season. I don’t watch them anymore so I don’t know if they still play it.

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            3 hours ago

            Oh, hard disagree, I don’t believe playing a movie at Christmas time is what makes a movie a Christmas movie.

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    24 hours ago

    My dad was arguing that it wasn’t because being set at Christmas isn’t enough, and said a bunch of things typical of a Christmas movie to have; while I countered with a list of things that happen in Die Hard that met his criteria.

    “Someone needs to receive a gift.”

    “McClane was gifted a machine gun.”

    “There needs to be a miracle.”

    “It’s a miracle John survived.”

    “It needs to capture the feeling of Christmas.”

    “Have you never spent time with your relatives at Christmas? It feels just like being held hostage at Nakatomi Plaza.”

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    14 hours ago

    Technically it is set during Christmas, but it’s not about Christmas. But a movie tons of people like to watch at Christmastime is a Christmas movie.

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      3 hours ago

      It has Christmas music in the soundtrack, the b plot is about family mending, and it takes place during a Christmas party.