What's your hot take on the Marvel cinematic Universe? - eviltoast

Mine is that the Disney+ shows should not have any impact on the movies, that they should just be on their own.

  • Susaga@sh.itjust.works
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    5 days ago

    What does Brie Larson’s charisma (which could be argued either way but I won’t) have to do with the writing quality? Considering everyone blames the writing quality for her reception, as seen above. And people being tired of superheroes didn’t apply to Shang Chi or Loki, which came out AFTER Captain Marvel.

    Whenever someone gives me an reason for their opinion that is provably untrue, but they don’t change their opinion, it makes me question what the actual reason is. And when I look at the bad (or even just okay) movies and look at which ones the “fanbase” is angry about, I can’t help but notice it skews towards hating the ones with female leads.

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      5 days ago

      Since you’re referring to me (I guess), I’ll answer: Captain Marvel is a deus ex machina. She’s just too powerful so they have to come up with bullshit reasons like she having to be helping some other planets to explain why she doesn’t come in, saves everything and the movie ends in 5 minutes.

      It’s pretty much Superman with no kryptonite and that’s boring. She’s just not a good character in general, someone so powerful needs exceptionally good writing which is not something MCU has.

      I don’t even know what Shang Chi is about, I just know it exists, but I simply don’t care, I got the superhero fatigue long before infinity war and basically watched infinity war and endgame just because I wanted to see how it ends.

      And yeah, I watched Loki, because he was my favourite character in the original movies. So it hooked me early on. And given the popularity of the character and actor, I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one.

      Your comment about “probably untrue” is that great combination of sad and horrible. So, I just “proved” my opinion is true, have you changed your mind yet?

      I can’t help but notice it skews towards hating the ones with female leads.

      Sure, sure, big bad misogyny. It doesn’t have anything in common with the fact that when MCU was new, all the interesting characters were men? And that every new movie is basically the same as the previous one, meaning they’re boring?

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        4 days ago

        No, it doesn’t prove your opinion, because I am not talking about those movies. I am talking about recent movies with equal or worse writing that were better received. If it was about writing quality, Captain Marvel would have gotten apathy, not hatred. That proves it’s not about writing quality.

        Shang Chi and Loki were both released after Captain Marvel and did not suffer due to superhero fatigue. So that shouldn’t be a factor in Captain Marvels reception either.

        Captain Marvel was released so late into the MCU due to Ike Perlmutter being deeply misogynistic, so there is absolutely precedent for misogyny in the superhero space. Why are you so insistent there isn’t any?