The Titantic was designed to stay afloat long enough to allow everyone to disembark in cohorts on life boats to rescue boats and send the lifeboats back for the rest- it was never intended to fit everyone on lifeboats all at once.
It was that a mix of how telephone operators made more money off personal telegrams than ice warnings, and didnt relay the messages, and how nearby possible rescue ships had gone to bed and turned off their radios meant this process didn’t get executed, and how because the iceberg hit the ship, essentially creating a large gash the entire length of the ship, causing the flotation bulwarks to be breached, which is a very rare occurrence, caused so much death.
In Tesla’s case, that much aforethought hasn’t been taken.
People weren’t meant to stay in the life boats? That’s a new one on me, I’d read that they had space more life boats but utilise it, instead going with the legal minimum.
Yes, I know I’m derailing the topic at hand, but I’m interested.
False: “All but two lifeboats were situated on the Boat Deck, the highest deck of Titanic.”
“Titanic only had enough lifeboats to accommodate approximately a third of the ship’s total capacity.”
“Compounding the disaster, Titanic’s crew was poorly trained on using the davits (lifeboat launching equipment). As a result, lifeboat launches were slow, improperly executed, and poorly supervised. These factors contributed to several lifeboats leaving with only half their capacity.”
I believe @warm@kbin.earth is referring to how Teslas have electronic door releases instead of mechanical handles and they don’t work in a fire. There is a mechanical emergency override (I think only on the front doors) but it’s not obvious and there have been multiple deaths from people who could not figure out how to escape from burning vehicles.
To me it’s the most egregious example of Tesla not knowing the basics of how to build a car or eschewing user experience conventions that have been developed over more than a century of car building for good reasons in favor of trying to be modern or futuristic.
Thx, okay I didn’t get it but makes sense. Yeah it’s really stupid to “reinvent” everything and offhandedly brush away the things that have been written in blood during previous decades… I mean it’s kind of obvious that a safety mechanism needs to be fast and easy to operate. Making someone disassemble a door while on fire and blind from the thick smoke might not be the best idea. And you’d need to perform some safety dance each time before boarding a Tesla or people/passengers won’t know the strange procedures.
It’s like if Titanic not only didn’t have enough lifeboats, but instead had no lifeboats, and also everyone was locked in their cabins.
The Titantic was designed to stay afloat long enough to allow everyone to disembark in cohorts on life boats to rescue boats and send the lifeboats back for the rest- it was never intended to fit everyone on lifeboats all at once.
It was that a mix of how telephone operators made more money off personal telegrams than ice warnings, and didnt relay the messages, and how nearby possible rescue ships had gone to bed and turned off their radios meant this process didn’t get executed, and how because the iceberg hit the ship, essentially creating a large gash the entire length of the ship, causing the flotation bulwarks to be breached, which is a very rare occurrence, caused so much death.
In Tesla’s case, that much aforethought hasn’t been taken.
People weren’t meant to stay in the life boats? That’s a new one on me, I’d read that they had space more life boats but utilise it, instead going with the legal minimum.
Yes, I know I’m derailing the topic at hand, but I’m interested.
In this case, they have lifeboats (apparently), they were just all hidden down in the ship somewhere (apparently).
False: “All but two lifeboats were situated on the Boat Deck, the highest deck of Titanic.”
“Titanic only had enough lifeboats to accommodate approximately a third of the ship’s total capacity.”
“Compounding the disaster, Titanic’s crew was poorly trained on using the davits (lifeboat launching equipment). As a result, lifeboat launches were slow, improperly executed, and poorly supervised. These factors contributed to several lifeboats leaving with only half their capacity.”
But seems they launched 18 out of 20 available.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifeboats_of_the_Titanic
I believe @warm@kbin.earth is referring to how Teslas have electronic door releases instead of mechanical handles and they don’t work in a fire. There is a mechanical emergency override (I think only on the front doors) but it’s not obvious and there have been multiple deaths from people who could not figure out how to escape from burning vehicles.
To me it’s the most egregious example of Tesla not knowing the basics of how to build a car or eschewing user experience conventions that have been developed over more than a century of car building for good reasons in favor of trying to be modern or futuristic.
Thx, okay I didn’t get it but makes sense. Yeah it’s really stupid to “reinvent” everything and offhandedly brush away the things that have been written in blood during previous decades… I mean it’s kind of obvious that a safety mechanism needs to be fast and easy to operate. Making someone disassemble a door while on fire and blind from the thick smoke might not be the best idea. And you’d need to perform some safety dance each time before boarding a Tesla or people/passengers won’t know the strange procedures.