"All you had to do was stick to oppressing your own people, and we would've kept looking the other way..." - eviltoast
  • @pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz
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    3210 months ago

    I legitimately feel bad for the Russian people as a lot of them don’t agree with what’s going on and had to either leave the country to avoid getting jailed for protesting or are forced to suffer in silence.

    • GreenM
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      2110 months ago

      i know few of them personally and generally those who live outside of Russia are against the regime and those who live inside Russia say they are not affected and are apolitical or that all countries to the west are controlled by US and want to steal Russian land + resources.

      It’s also funny to hear what they get to hear in tv aside from UK like that time they were told that in Europe it is so dry that people don’t have water to drink or that people are freezing in winter because no RU gas

      • @vivadanang@lemm.ee
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        610 months ago

        meanwhile in russian crimea, there is no water to drink and the gas line recently got blasted.

        gonna be a shitty winter in crimea lol

          • prole
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            610 months ago

            Yeah I’m not sure how much the geolocation has to do with it. Scandinavia seems to be doing just fine. Perhaps even “very well.”

            • GreenM
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              110 months ago

              From what i know, Russia has about every conditions we know(freezing winters, pefrost, rain forest,…) If talk about Moscow and St. Perterburg, those are not that hard to live in due to wheather AFAIK

          • GreenM
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            110 months ago

            Nah they are enjoying from drama movie like capitalism, richest have everything, mafia (bratva) is integrated into goverment and poor people don’t even have electricity.

    • Queen HawlSera
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      10 months ago

      I run a, let’s say… “Social Club” on discord (Okay it’s an Erotic Roleplay server) one of our regulars is Russian, I actually worry about him quite a bit. He wishes he could leave the country, he’s very lucid of the entire situation.

      (Edit: I said he was 18+ instead of Russian because I get confused and word association happens. Of course he’s 18+. It’s an erp server literally everyone is.)

      • @ytrav@lemmy.world
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        210 months ago

        did you really have to mention that you run an erotic roleplay discord server just to say that some russians want to flee the country?

        • Queen HawlSera
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          410 months ago

          That’s literally our association he is in my server. We are very close knit group and we care about him and worry for him.

        • I buy dolls from one of the biggest toy makers on Etsy, and I helped donate to her fund to escape eastern Ukraine when the war started.

          It might not seem necessary, but details like that humanize who we are talking about and allow us to emotionally resonate with the speaker and the subject. It’s how basic human communication works.

    • @orrk@lemmy.world
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      810 months ago

      the majority of Russian people very strongly agree with the invasion, remember, Navalny might be the strongest opposition, but he was for even more radical reconquest of “Rightfully western Russian soil”

      • @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        You’re minimizing the effect of propaganda.

        The Russians have been subjected to it (about this war) intensely those last five years.

        OTOH, and I don’t know where you are from, the US people have been subjected to it intensely since 1955 (the US propaganda machine is probably the best in the world, many books have been written about it).

        And if you’re from the US and it makes you buckle, just consider that it’s the same for the Russians that have been indoctrinated for a while.

        Anyway, not to defend the Russians, but it’s a sad situation all around. And as usual, the civilians are the victims. But they will cheer their oppressors, because they are idiots.