I’m in the market to find a new distro that is similar enough to Fedora that switching won’t be as laborious as I’ve had it before. I keep hearing POP!_os is a good choice but I’m going to as the community what they think is good.
If you’re going for a similar Fedora-like experience, with it being a rolling release that is still stable, then OpenSuse Tumbleweed is definitely you’re best bet.
Now, if the rolling release nature is something you’re less attached to, then some good options would be Pop!_OS (especially if you have an Nvidia card), another Ubuntu-spin like Kubuntu perhaps or even KDE Neon, and maybe Debian 12. Though for the last one, although it’s a fantastic distro, it looks nice, new, and shiny now, but in 6-12 months when you’re not even half way through the Debian upgrade cycle and still on old software, will that bother you? If the answer is yes, then look elsewhere. Otherwise, Debian 12 may be a good choice for you as well.
As a long time Fedora user, I’ve been using openSUSE Tumbleweed exclusively the past few months and it has been fantastic. KDE is their flagship desktop but I believe they also provide a vanilla Gnome experience.
Solus just came out with a new image and they are 100% rolling, 100% community driven. I’ve happily used Solus for many years.
Solus interests me, but it was pretty much dead for a good while until very recently. I still think it’s best to wait another 6-12 months to ensure that they succeed in regularly keeping everything updated before recommending it to people.
All the power was in the hands of one person who came down with serous problems. The organization has since been reformed so that can never happen again. It is now in a good place.
That same problem has happened twice with Solus though - Ikey’s abrupt departure being the first.
I hope that this time the structural changes will ensure they sail on a even keel for a good while, but I remain wary.
Suck it up and learn Debian and why .deb > .rpm.
That’s funny. When the maintainer of AT&T unix’s perf group was looking at a distro to clone and support, RPM>Deb was 90% why debs were excluded.
Maybe something changed dramatically since then.
You mean Adrian? He’s an odd duck and I wouldn’t take his choices at this level as anything other than some obscure tiny performance improvement.
My issue with RPM is even the official packages didn’t put files where the standard they wrote said. Admittedly I haven’t used an RPM distro in 20 years so it’s possible things have changed.
Personally, I use Debian, but it’s a different approach from Fedora. My suggestion for you is to try OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. It’s a rolling release, which means bleeding edge software as Fedora, it’s RPM based and it’s easy to rollback in case of an update breaks something. As I said, not my type of distro (I want 0 breaks), but I used OpenSUSE once while distro hopping and it’s a good distro.
This sounds like what I’m looking for. What is their support for steam, blender, AMD CPU/GPU support, and do they use flatpak, or is it more of an APK setup?
openSUSE does support FlatPak, just follow the Wiki entry. There is also a wiki entry about Steam Blender is in the repositories. Also keep in mind that they stance about multimedia codecs is the same as Fedora. Please consusult this wiki entry for more information. I have to say that openSUSE Tumbleweed is a fantastic distro. It is rolling release, but it is also using OpenQA to make sure nothing breaks during updates. Hope this helps.
My computer is a Ryzen with AMD GPU as well. Drivers are embedded on kernel, so any distro should fit. Flatpak works fine too, but of course, you will need to install it and add Flathub - simple, but needed ( https://flathub.org/setup/openSUSE ). Steam runs fine, if I remember well. Blender I don’t know, I never used.
Arch BTW.
Since I can’t edit my post (not sure why, just can’t) this parent post should help people.
My leaving Fedora and by extension RH, mostly is about not supporting in any meaningful capacity any associated with RH. My hope is to find something similar to Fedora, I’m getting a lot of recommendations about OpenSUSE tumbleweed and endeavorOS. Since my setup is AMD CPU/GPU it seems while not the perfect choice POP!_OS isn’t for me. I think as long as the distro supports vanilla Gnome or as close as possible would be great.
I think if you want meaningful recommendations, you have to say:
- why you want to get away from Fedora
- what you liked about Fedora that kept you there until now
- what you hope you’d get from a new distro
- any nonstarters that would keep you away from a distro
Without knowing those things, it’s just going to be people proselytizing their favorite distros rather than suggesting one that will fit what you’re looking for.
I recently moved from Linux mint to opensuse tumbleweed and I’ve been VERY happy. Super stable. Even through multiple dist-upgrades.
That’s your chance to turn away from rpm/RHEL distros and run without looking back. As last 20 years history shows, that branch of linux OS is either dying off on hands, leaving you without suport, either makes migration path complicated by a need to change distro. Like it was with centos +5…10 years, oh no … -> maybe fedora -> oh no … -> whatever whocares rpm pop/rocky/alma name it … Thats it, beat it, no more this shit.
deb or any other kind linux is a way to go.
Any specific reason why you’d like to move away from Fedora? It’s an amazing distro, all things considered.
Don’t get me wrong. I love Fedora, but with the things they’ve done recently, I really don’t think what I want from an OS and RH wants are the same anymore. I’d prefer to separate from them while I have the opportunity before I’m invested to the point of staying because it’s too hard to migrate.
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I am a regarded linux user but my understanding is that they cutting ability of the community to package certain sections from RHEL
When someone tells you Fedora is
completely independent from redhat.
You ignore them.
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There is context, you just need to step outside of your rock and see the rest of the posts at /c/linux
There are MULTIPLE threads touching the subject, in the front page. Stop being so lazy.
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HHAHAHAHHAHA
Do you live under a rock?
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All the red hat turmoil, there are plenty of posts here on lemmy
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I settled on PopOS, easy to use, just working OS
I’ve been using Pop! for years, having been a user of Debian, Ubuntu, and Mint previously. It pretty much just works as far as I can tell. Are there specific things you’re looking for?
Consider PCLinuxOS. ‘PLOS’ has the same look and feel of the ent Linuxes, but
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as a child of mageia/mandriva from mandrake and conectiva, it’s derivation from RH is super long ago so it’s closer to rhel5 for well-built well-tested tools.
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it has maaaaassive lib/app support range, like Axel Rose’s vocal range compared to EL’s Bruce Springsteen. No stream or other crap shenanigans aside from etc/alternatives.
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No systemd. Weird how startups are fast and reliable
It can yum cron like a badass.
Caveats:
- if you liked building vagrants on mageia, you need to help them on pclos. They have no clue there, and the skillet seems to be fading fast.
- people who support sysv startup are getting more lazy and ditching it.
- people who support last week’s version of anything are no more prevalent in pclos, so there’s no magical fix for “10 second tom” devs here either.
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Can also vouch for Pop_OS .Can’t tell how much having recovery partition added saved me from reinstalling os again :)
Literally any Debian distribution with the exact same window manager service you were using in Fedora would be essentially as if you never switched away at all.
If you never touch the command line yeah, but how many of us Fedora users don’t do that?
Fedora is close to bleeding edge. Debian is using old relics.
I would recommend the following in descending order:
- OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
- Linux Mint
- Debian Testing
- Debian Stable
I think you’ll be right at home on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed.
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Hmm, so on top of living under a rock you also like to spread misinformation.
For starters, check Debian FAQ and read up on why Sid (Unstable) is preferred over Testing. Here’s a link: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/. Would you prefer a PDF version?
Next, I recommend reading the Flatpak FAQ: https://flatpak.org/faq/
I don’t understand recommending an another company distro to user who is happy with using Fedora but want to change it just because it is a company distro. (They both are actually community projects but let’s ignore it for the purpose of this discussion)
Because the OP specifically wanted something as close as possible to Fedora, and is moving away from Fedora because of Red Hat’s antics. SUSE is not Red Hat. I don’t want to impart an unfounded paranoia that all company distros are bad onto a user who may not hold that opinion.
They can decide if they accept a SUSE-related distro instead, or move onto my next recommendation, Linux Mint, if they don’t.
Because the OP specifically wanted something as close as possible to Fedora, and is moving away from Fedora because of Red Hat’s antics. SUSE is not Red Hat. I don’t want to impart an unfounded paranoia that all company distros are bad onto a user who may not hold that opinion.
They can decide if they accept a SUSE-related distro instead, or move onto my next recommendation, Linux Mint, if they don’t.
I personally recommend against using Debian Testing for anything other than testing the next Debian release. It gets slower security updates, and breakages get fixed slower than just using Sid directly. Since Sid has its own securirt team and since it moves faster, breakages are fixed sooner. Even in the official documentation Debian doesn’t not suggest using Testing for the same reasons.
While that’s true in theory, it’s still very common to run Debian Testing on a desktop in practice. For a user coming from Fedora, there would likely be culture shock from the dated packages in Stable. Using Stable with Flatpaks+Nix would be more usable, but OP’s experience does not sound like it would fit well with the effort/knowledge required for this solution.
I wouldn’t recommend Sid to a less-experienced user and I didn’t recommend Arch for a similar reason.
If you don’t recommend Sid, then Testing is out of the question. Testing is Sid, but less secure. Testing also has package freezing during the last stages of the release cycle. If you want a stable, and managed Debian, then the latest stable is the answer. If you want an cutting edge, semi-rolling release Debian, then you want Sid. Being in the middle has no advantages to the end user, and only invites complications. If something is broken in Testing, you have to wait for it to be fixed in Sid first, then trickle down to Testing at an absolute minimum. Why add an extra delay for nothing?
EDIT: offcial documentation https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/choosing.en.html#s3.1.6
Want share my 2c as I prefer testing over sid. It is balance which side you want. Sid got break more freq but also fixed more quickly. Testing has less break but fix also come slowly. For me I prefer less break. So I setup preference/policy to get testing higher than sid. This is not for breakage/fix nor security fix. This is about package available. I think Firefox is one example that testing only has esr so it will install latest from sid and most other packages still tracking testing. Again personal choices and that’s beauty of Linux.
While you are always free to make your own choices, this is very bad advice for someone looking to try another distro.
https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Don.27t_make_a_FrankenDebian Official documentation again does not recommend mixing multiple releases like this. You would be much better off just running Sid, or Stable then using the Firefox flatpak/snap/appimage for the latest release. Debian is a long term stable distro, so if you want newer packages you are advised by the developers of said distro to just use Sid.
yeah, I agree with you, for anyone new to debian maybe should follow official suggestion. But as user using debian so long, I think I understand the risk (of course the benefit) of my setup. Maybe I will try sid someday. Have a nice day!
