I shut my mouth during the election and hoped for Harris to win. Fuck it though, the DNC has utterly failed us. From now on, I’m voting for someone that can offer real change. If the DNC tries to ratfuck another candidate like Sanders I’ll write their name in and not give a fuck because the DNC gave us Trump, twice.
Now is the time to organize and drag the DNC off the corporate dick they’re sucking.
Bernie is right in that Dems need to focus on inequality and not identity politics. But the DNC didn’t do shit. The DNC isn’t a person with policies of its own. It was individual politicians that failed us.
the DNC gave us Trump, twice.
The DNC didn’t give you shit. VOTERS gave you Donald Trainwreck.
I am SO sick of this “the DNC is a person that gives us things” shit. IDENTITY POLITICS is the problem. Not focusing on INCOME INEQUALITY is the problem. INDIVIDUAL POLITICIANS who don’t understand these things are a problem. The DNC is simply an organization chosen by the primary voters every 4 years with nearly complete turnover in that time period. Focus on the right problem. Whoever wins the most primary delegates IS THE DNC. And if somebody like Bernie wins, THEY ARE THE DNC for the next 4 years.
I agree that identity politics is the problem. I use “DNC” as shorthand for “the politicians currently in charge of the DNC that are blocking any attempt at change”, so I think we agree there too.
It’s not that they don’t want to institute these things. It’s the fact that every Republican win shifts the Overton window, and makes them believe that they need to move more to the center.
“If the GOP are winning elections, then maybe this is what the American people want.”
Also, none of us are the typical voter. Nobody on this forum, nobody popular on Twitter, nobody with a YouTube channel. None of us are the average mindless American that doesn’t give a shit about politics, doomscrolling 4 hours a day, falling for whatever propaganda lands on their eyes, and are only voting because it’s a team sport they get to play every four years.
The single-dimension left-right paradigm is stupid and overly-reductive. I mean, that’s pretty clear even in this election: Voters gave Republicans the whole federal government, and voted for abortion rights. How is it possible that they could move right and left simultaneously; or, is there maybe some other principle in play?
My inclination has always been to not call myself a Dem, avoid affiliating with the party, and geneeally shit on them. However, I’ve been thinking, we should be trying to learn how the tea party took over the Republican party and doing that. They did an absolutely remarkable job
That said, there’s a lot of differences, they’re white in a white supremacist nation, for one
The Koch Brothers were also the ones paying for the Think Tanks that turned Neoliberalism into the top political ideology and ultimately made the Democrat Party too (so, not just the Republican Party) a Neoliberal Hard-Right pro-Oligarchy Party.
In a way we could say they’ve already worked their “magic” on the Dems.
Harris is guilty of running a losing campaign but she did not “pal around with Dick Cheney”. The only issue they agreed on is Democracy over Fascism. The only connection between the 2 is that Dick Cheney endorsed Harris.
Yeah, people are going crazy about Trump Destroying Democracy In America when it’s already been destroyed and all they have is a meaningless vote whose result doesn’t actually impact the most important things for the majority of people in the country.
If you’re saying that a vote for a 3rd party is a vote for Trump, guess what? Voting for whatever the DNC offers up still got us Trump, twice. I’d rather vote my conscience if it doesn’t matter anyways.
I shut my mouth during the election and hoped for Harris to win. Fuck it though, the DNC has utterly failed us. From now on, I’m voting for someone that can offer real change. If the DNC tries to ratfuck another candidate like Sanders I’ll write their name in and not give a fuck because the DNC gave us Trump, twice.
Now is the time to organize and drag the DNC off the corporate dick they’re sucking.
Bernie is right in that Dems need to focus on inequality and not identity politics. But the DNC didn’t do shit. The DNC isn’t a person with policies of its own. It was individual politicians that failed us.
The DNC didn’t give you shit. VOTERS gave you Donald Trainwreck.
I am SO sick of this “the DNC is a person that gives us things” shit. IDENTITY POLITICS is the problem. Not focusing on INCOME INEQUALITY is the problem. INDIVIDUAL POLITICIANS who don’t understand these things are a problem. The DNC is simply an organization chosen by the primary voters every 4 years with nearly complete turnover in that time period. Focus on the right problem. Whoever wins the most primary delegates IS THE DNC. And if somebody like Bernie wins, THEY ARE THE DNC for the next 4 years.
I agree that identity politics is the problem. I use “DNC” as shorthand for “the politicians currently in charge of the DNC that are blocking any attempt at change”, so I think we agree there too.
Shaun said it better than I can (nitter link):
It’s not that they don’t want to institute these things. It’s the fact that every Republican win shifts the Overton window, and makes them believe that they need to move more to the center.
“If the GOP are winning elections, then maybe this is what the American people want.”
Also, none of us are the typical voter. Nobody on this forum, nobody popular on Twitter, nobody with a YouTube channel. None of us are the average mindless American that doesn’t give a shit about politics, doomscrolling 4 hours a day, falling for whatever propaganda lands on their eyes, and are only voting because it’s a team sport they get to play every four years.
This feels generally correct yet wrong in some way I can’t put my finger on. Curious if anyone thinks they know what it is.
The single-dimension left-right paradigm is stupid and overly-reductive. I mean, that’s pretty clear even in this election: Voters gave Republicans the whole federal government, and voted for abortion rights. How is it possible that they could move right and left simultaneously; or, is there maybe some other principle in play?
My inclination has always been to not call myself a Dem, avoid affiliating with the party, and geneeally shit on them. However, I’ve been thinking, we should be trying to learn how the tea party took over the Republican party and doing that. They did an absolutely remarkable job
That said, there’s a lot of differences, they’re white in a white supremacist nation, for one
Koch brothers did that. I dunno if they’d want to do it for the Dems.
The Koch Brothers were also the ones paying for the Think Tanks that turned Neoliberalism into the top political ideology and ultimately made the Democrat Party too (so, not just the Republican Party) a Neoliberal Hard-Right pro-Oligarchy Party.
In a way we could say they’ve already worked their “magic” on the Dems.
As FD Signifier said, put on your clown shoes.*
I wasn’t going to vote for Biden but I decided I’d hold my nose and vote for her, even after the whole Gaza thing at the convention.
But then she started palling around with Dick fucking Cheney.
Harris is guilty of running a losing campaign but she did not “pal around with Dick Cheney”. The only issue they agreed on is Democracy over Fascism. The only connection between the 2 is that Dick Cheney endorsed Harris.
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Bold of you to assume your vote will matter in the future.
Bold of you to assume that it ever did.
Yeah, people are going crazy about Trump Destroying Democracy In America when it’s already been destroyed and all they have is a meaningless vote whose result doesn’t actually impact the most important things for the majority of people in the country.
The electorate failed us. They saw a child rapist, and said cool I’m in! Eggs man!
So, Trump or whoever the GOP offers?
If you’re saying that a vote for a 3rd party is a vote for Trump, guess what? Voting for whatever the DNC offers up still got us Trump, twice. I’d rather vote my conscience if it doesn’t matter anyways.