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I thought I could take this down after the election, apparently not.

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We’re seeing an uptick in trolling already, trolls will be banhammered without warning.

  • fcSolar@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    14 days ago

    Sure and while they play around, those genocides I mentioned will still happen. And when their regime collapses, the chaos will kill even more people. This must be prevented.

    • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      14 days ago

      Too late to prevent now.

      Democrats refusing to give power now will forever destroy Democracy. The only hope we have is to give power to Trump and hope he doesn’t break it too much.

      As others noted: it’s a one sided risk. Trump doesn’t care about the future of Democracy. Democrats do care.

      I expect that most Republicans, despite voting for Trump stupidly, also care about Democracy.

      We have likely lost not only the electoral college vote this time around, but even the Popular Vote. It’s a blowout. There’s no excuses on a Democracy perspective.

      I am a major Ukraine supporter. I was for Harris and everything. But now I’m worried about far more local issues. This is a resounding defeat of my trust of my fellow Americans, my coworkers, etc etc.

      But we are not the ones in power. The election was a blowout in the wrong direction. Even if Jack Smith arrests Trump tomorrow what is that supposed to accomplish??

      • fcSolar@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        14 days ago

        Too late to prevent now.

        Wow, someone more cynical than I am.

        Democrats refusing to give power now will forever destroy Democracy.

        That’s historically not true. Many interim governments do dissolve successfully after fulfilling their purpose. I’d expect such an interim government to last a decade, two tops while the constitution and judiciary is unfucked.

        We have likely lost not only the electoral college vote this time around, but even the Popular Vote. It’s a blowout. There’s no excuses on a Democracy perspective.

        As I said upchain, democracy really isn’t at the top of my priority list right now. Preventing 3-4 additional genocides is.

        I expect that most Republicans, despite voting for Trump stupidly, also care about Democracy.

        Yeah no. The median republican voter only cares about furthering their hate, and seeing the people hey don’t like hurt. Remember “He’s hurting the wrong people!”?

        • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          13 days ago

          I don’t think a non-Democracy or otherwise forced interim government can stand today. There’s no legal basis and you’re basically asking for Biden to just perform a coup and hand the reigns of power to someone.

          I mean, I guess I appreciate your gusto but that’s not gonna work.

          • fcSolar@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            13 days ago

            There’s rarely, if ever, a legal basis for an interim government. Just like there’s no provision in the constitution for replacing it, this is basically how it’s done. And honestly I’d rather Biden keep the reigns for a little while at least. Harris is the obvious choice there, but she’s a too right wing for my tastes.