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Because the conditions required for fascism to take root have been incubating for decades.
Massive wealth inequality, insecure employment, non-existent labor laws and worker’s rights, hollowed-out education, healthcare and social services, large corporations getting to write their own laws verbatim, political parties sucking dick for their donors, endless war ensuring unlimited money for the military-industrial complex, demonization of brown-people-of-the-week, fetishization of ‘the troops’ and ongoing acceptance of brutality.
People are poor, desperate, ignorant, exploited and forgotten, they’re shown every day that killing the shit out of outsiders is the solution to all the country’s problems, anyone pushing actual progressive ideals is shut down and demonized as a threat to the profits of the 0.1%, giving people a choice between rightwing bastardry and neoliberal bastardry as their only lens through which to see the world.
Give that the opportunity to flare up and of course it’s fucking going to. The republicans want it, the dems do nothing to prevent it.
It’s like watching a party get the wrong kind of rowdy all night, you keep supplying drinks regardless, then you wonder why it turns into a fight, oh no how could this ever happen?
This is the correct answer.
Same answer it’s been for my whole lifetime: a small number of extremely wealthy individuals pumping a constant stream of money into conservative media with the express purpose of changing public opinion.
People who’ve been listening to this stuff their entire lives don’t live in the real world. They legitimately don’t believe in reality, and after a certain point I’m not sure it’s possible to bring them back. Much like climate change, this kind of thing should’ve been stopped at the source decades ago, and it might just be too late now.
Some of it is people who read none of the stuff we are. They are heads down, working, etc, just glancing at headlines.
They know one thing: prices were better under trump.
They don’t know one thing: what inflation is. They think if inflation goes down then prices go down.
In short: they think if they vote for trump, prices will go back to 2016-2020.
That’s it. That is why. Prices never go back, and trumps plans for working class will make life even worse, but they still think he’ll bring 2016-2020 prices back with him.
Trump supporters live in a different reality. Because they’re in a fascist cult.
lies, hatred, and illegal behavior have resulted in zero consequence because people are afraid of hurting GOP’s sensitive fee fees, so now a rapist convicted felon con man might be dictator next week
where are all the “we need to respect their viewpoint!!” people now?
Roy is great. He’s no Moss, but he’s great.
Sad Richmond noises
Aren’t all his noises kind of sad?
Because there are far more idiot bigots in this country than anyone wanted to admit.
What really gets me is I’ve had people on the Right tell me about the illegal immigrant problem and about how they do all these crimes. Then when I trap them with the obvious, “Trump is felon though” argument I always get, “Oh he’s different.” alongside the usual conspiracy theories. These are just the bad actors.
So thinking about it, what’s even worse are the people who are supporting Trump as reactionary supporters. All they know is they’re angry and the Democrats are the ones who always talk about change. So time to vote for not them for reasons they can never explain.
This is a health check and America is very sick.
Looks over at America who’s been covering themselves with their own feces for the past decade.
What’s terrible is that it’s the right hand that keeps covering us with shit while those of us on the left hand try desperately to get the soap. Not enough soap for all the shit. :(
because fascism already has a tight grip, regardless of election outcomes
Either the election isn’t close at all which would make sense with how desperate and frankly weird Republican party antics have been lately. They’re nothing but off putting and seem to focus on efforts that are most likely to make them look like overly online idiots. Or the polling is accurate and people are just the dumbest they have ever been and thus democracy is a failure in the modern era. Which means the first party to take over and nullify an election will likely hold power for quite some time. Rather distressing. I am hopeful that the polling is just wrong in this case.
Or the polling is accurate and people are just the dumbest they have ever been and thus democracy is a failure in the modern era.
It’s this one. The voter suppression and disinformation is what keeps it closer to 50/50, but without those it would still be like 55/45.
Fox News primarily.
Maybe the fact that every time Kamala says she wants to appoint Republicans to her cabinet and sign Republican immigration policies into law she slides in the polls a bit should tell us something
Biden tried the working with Republican thing. They hated him and demonised him.
Why even try?
Why try to negotiate with a party who base their entire personalities on obstruction and destroying the government?
Because Dems can’t accept that Republicans are a lost cause and they just need to motivate their base instead of trying to appeal to the worst half of the voting populace.
Because Dems can’t accept that Republicans are a lost cause
The problem might be that Dems are a right-wing party and they want to work with the other right-wing party.
But they don’t understand - and this makes no sense, because the evidence is obvious - that they have been demonised from since before I was born as being what they are not, namely socialist and communist.
Dems are conservstive, as in what the term originally meant, not right wing.
I define the Dems as right wing, sorry.
I’m pretty sure the Dems fit this definition, overall: “The neo-liberal right sought to combine a market economy and economic deregulation with the traditional right-wing beliefs in patriotism, elitism and law and order”.
https://jacobin.com/2022/07/democratic-party-neoliberalism-dlc-clinton
In 1992, Bill Clinton ran for president promising to “end welfare as we know it.” This rightward turn was part of a broader attempt by the Democrats to craft a “progressive neoliberalism” — whose “progressivism” included abandoning its working-class base.
You are wrong, not sorry.
Okay. Thanks for not trying to change my mind.
“Right-wing politics is the range of political ideologies that view certain social orders and hierarchies as inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable…”
You say “Dems are conservstive”. What are they conserving? Would it be certain social orders and hierarchies?
It may not be. Polling has been off lately, especially “polling without a specific name attached”.
OTOH, lots of people vote for party not the person.
Does anyone know if “already voted” people are included in prospective voter polls? If they are excluded, we might be seeing a shift in polling towards Trump because his supporters vote day-of more than Harris voters.
Now you are trying to make people cry.
