I voted party for socialism and liberation and you can too!
They’re running Claudia de la Cruz on a platform of Palestinian liberation and an end to arms shipments to israel.
They’re eligible for enough electoral votes to win in an unprecedented landslide!
Even if you can’t protest, door knock, phone bank, picket or boycott, you can still use your vote to tell the two major parties that you won’t accept their genocide.
De La Cruz is a place holder. Nothing more. She’s untested, has no win condition strategy that makes any sense in reality and serves only as a spoiler, and has a barely above zero chance to win.
DO NOT FALL FOR THIS BULLSHIT.
She did nothing the last four years to earn your attention let alone your vote. She has no strategy to make anything she promises actually work because she knows has shown to have little knowledge about how politics work.
Soooo…. You’re just going to accuse Harris of being pRo gEnoCiDe and let that hang there like a bright flashing siren bulb of bat-shit blatant misinformation?
If by chance you ever think to ask yourself why people won’t take you seriously, reference the aforementioned bright flashing siren bulb of bat-shit blatant misinformation.
And in our precious discussion, you failed to outline how she intends to follow through with her bullshit promises, and I believe as I remember, I called you out for being a bad-faith propagandist.
Wait… was that someone else? There’s just so many of you.
Harris is party to genocide. She serves as vp to a president who repeated the lies of the people committing the genocide, took executive action to send weapons to them and has not made efforts to stop the violence that we have seen put forward from a president in a similar situation in the opposition party.
Harris has said that she intends to continue to support israel in their genocide. When asked directly what she would do to stop the loss of Palestinian life she pivoted to talking about groceries within this week.
Harris could break with the administration she serves under, so many people have left it in protest, she could signal her willingness to see to end the genocide by joining them.
She will not because she is pro genocide. There’s no other way to put it. None of that is misinformation.
She has the opportunity to influence it from within at a high position and takes no action, she has the capacity to use her position to speak out against it and she does not. She is running to take on the only position higher than the one she occupies and could campaign on ending it but she does not. She could promise to end it or make any commitment to use her powers as president to stop it but she does not.
If you have the ability to stop a genocide and people ask you to do so and you refuse, you’re pro genocide. Harris is pro genocide.
That’s not debatable. It’s the whole reason people are bending over backwards to try and paint trump as a greater evil because they can’t deny that Harris is evil because she is pro genicide.
With that cleared up, some ways de la Cruz could accomplish just one of her bullshit promises as president is by first and foremost not sending weapons to israel by executive order. She could also condition aid to israel on a ceasefire, and she could refuse to send aid ordered by congress due to its being illegal under international law backed up by the power of the justice department.
A president harris could also do those things, but would not because she is pro genocide.
Our previous discussion began with you calling me a bad faith actor and ended with you saying you were disgusted with yourself.
I’m going to guess that you probably didn’t know where Palestine even was a year ago. Yet here you are shilling for an election spoiler because it’s something that more than likely made you feel like you’re finally part of something for a change.
You think no one is aware that you people do this shit every four years? Dude… You’re like the cicadas of election interference. You’ll prop up whichever candidate promises the most because they stand the lowest chance to win and actually have to make do on their bullshit promises. But they sure do look good on paper! Right? And that’s all you need them to do. look good on paper.
Then… You’ll disappear like the rest of them the moment the election ends.
No one here is going to take this bullshit seriously. You have to know that.
You made a bunch of assumptions about me and tried to paint a picture of a person you’d like to argue against last time we spoke too.
If no one’s gonna take my position seriously then why do you care?
If you arent planning on paying attention to what the other person says and youre just gonna fall back on building a strawman to lob ad-hominem attacks against then why are you replying?
That’s why it’s so important that you go out and vote psl!
Even if the de la Cruz campaign doesn’t win, a strong showing helps them get funding, event invitations, media coverage, ballot space and make it more likely people will hear about them.
Even if you don’t actually want psl to grow, a big turnout makes it more likely that the democrats (or republicans, if you generally side with them instead) will adopt parts of the psl platform!
You’re way better of spending your time and effort getting ranked choice voting implemented. Then this candidate you support would actually have a chance of getting elected. And with the increased power over our government, stopping the next genocide in it’s tracks would be trivial.
For me it’s not an either/or. I’m a communist and I’m supporting a communist party. I don’t think ranked choice will do enough to reform our elections to give up supporting and advocating for psl.
Tbh I don’t think any voting scheme can do enough to reform our elections and I don’t think reforming our elections would do enough to fix the problems with our country.
Neuters negative campaigning, increases political competition, no more lesser of two evils I.e. third parties can win, reduced disenfranchisement reducing influence of extremist and fascist organizations, the list goes on. People actually being able to express their will through the government is the solution to every problem.
And I hate to say it but your support for PSL means nothing, literally zero without something like RCV. So again, if you care about your party, you have to work for RCV or some other improved voting system, or you’ll smugly do nothing for the rest of your political career. It sucks, but it’s reality until we change it.
Eh, reading about ranked choice from people living in places that have it makes me think it would change the dynamics of our system but not “fix” it.
I’m not against it and I think it would be better than what we have now, but I’m not going to prioritize it over supporting my party of choice especially in the face of genocide.
I think you’d be right about my support for psl if winning was the only thing that mattered. Losing parties still get funding, ballot access, event presence, media coverage and of course public awareness from their ballot turnout though, so there’s good reason to vote for em even without ranked choice.
To your comment about smugly doing nothing: I’m active politically locally to the degree that I genuinely worry about doxing myself here and will probably fuck off in a year or so. It’s really easy to get involved in local politics if you have the time to go to a meeting once or twice a month. Can’t recommend highly enough the process of attending those meetings and having the burrs rounded off your political self in the tumbler of local activity.
I voted party for socialism and liberation and you can too!
They’re running Claudia de la Cruz on a platform of Palestinian liberation and an end to arms shipments to israel.
They’re eligible for enough electoral votes to win in an unprecedented landslide!
Even if you can’t protest, door knock, phone bank, picket or boycott, you can still use your vote to tell the two major parties that you won’t accept their genocide.
De La Cruz is a place holder. Nothing more. She’s untested, has no win condition strategy that makes any sense in reality and serves only as a spoiler, and has a barely above zero chance to win.
DO NOT FALL FOR THIS BULLSHIT.
She did nothing the last four years to earn your attention let alone your vote. She has no strategy to make anything she promises actually work because she knows has shown to have little knowledge about how politics work.
DON’T WASTE YOUR VOTES ON THIS NONSENSE.
Even if what you said were true, I’d gladly pick an untested candidate who is against genocide over a battle hardened pro genocide one any day.
Of course, what you’re saying isn’t true.
I will vote for the placeholder candidate when the place they’re holding is the one marked “no genocide”.
If people voting for psl spoils the democrats chances then maybe the democrats should adopt the psl platform in order to win.
You and I already had a conversation where we discussed psls strategy, so suggesting that there isn’t one especially in a reply to me is pretty sus.
Soooo…. You’re just going to accuse Harris of being pRo gEnoCiDe and let that hang there like a bright flashing siren bulb of bat-shit blatant misinformation?
If by chance you ever think to ask yourself why people won’t take you seriously, reference the aforementioned bright flashing siren bulb of bat-shit blatant misinformation.
And in our precious discussion, you failed to outline how she intends to follow through with her bullshit promises, and I believe as I remember, I called you out for being a bad-faith propagandist.
Wait… was that someone else? There’s just so many of you.
Harris is party to genocide. She serves as vp to a president who repeated the lies of the people committing the genocide, took executive action to send weapons to them and has not made efforts to stop the violence that we have seen put forward from a president in a similar situation in the opposition party.
Harris has said that she intends to continue to support israel in their genocide. When asked directly what she would do to stop the loss of Palestinian life she pivoted to talking about groceries within this week.
Harris could break with the administration she serves under, so many people have left it in protest, she could signal her willingness to see to end the genocide by joining them.
She will not because she is pro genocide. There’s no other way to put it. None of that is misinformation.
She has the opportunity to influence it from within at a high position and takes no action, she has the capacity to use her position to speak out against it and she does not. She is running to take on the only position higher than the one she occupies and could campaign on ending it but she does not. She could promise to end it or make any commitment to use her powers as president to stop it but she does not.
If you have the ability to stop a genocide and people ask you to do so and you refuse, you’re pro genocide. Harris is pro genocide.
That’s not debatable. It’s the whole reason people are bending over backwards to try and paint trump as a greater evil because they can’t deny that Harris is evil because she is pro genicide.
With that cleared up, some ways de la Cruz could accomplish just one of her bullshit promises as president is by first and foremost not sending weapons to israel by executive order. She could also condition aid to israel on a ceasefire, and she could refuse to send aid ordered by congress due to its being illegal under international law backed up by the power of the justice department.
A president harris could also do those things, but would not because she is pro genocide.
Our previous discussion began with you calling me a bad faith actor and ended with you saying you were disgusted with yourself.
You don’t have to keep responding.
I’m going to guess that you probably didn’t know where Palestine even was a year ago. Yet here you are shilling for an election spoiler because it’s something that more than likely made you feel like you’re finally part of something for a change.
You think no one is aware that you people do this shit every four years? Dude… You’re like the cicadas of election interference. You’ll prop up whichever candidate promises the most because they stand the lowest chance to win and actually have to make do on their bullshit promises. But they sure do look good on paper! Right? And that’s all you need them to do. look good on paper.
Then… You’ll disappear like the rest of them the moment the election ends.
No one here is going to take this bullshit seriously. You have to know that.
You made a bunch of assumptions about me and tried to paint a picture of a person you’d like to argue against last time we spoke too.
If no one’s gonna take my position seriously then why do you care?
If you arent planning on paying attention to what the other person says and youre just gonna fall back on building a strawman to lob ad-hominem attacks against then why are you replying?
Not a single straw man built bud. You’re bad faith. It’s obvious. I’m just calling you out.
You’ve convinced no one here to vote for your spoiler. I’d bet money on it.
You literally just made up a story about who you want me to be and argued against that construction instead of responding to anything I wrote.
Surely you can’t expect people reading this to think im the one acting in bad faith here?
Being eligible is one thing, being likely to happen is something completely different.
That’s why it’s so important that you go out and vote psl!
Even if the de la Cruz campaign doesn’t win, a strong showing helps them get funding, event invitations, media coverage, ballot space and make it more likely people will hear about them.
Even if you don’t actually want psl to grow, a big turnout makes it more likely that the democrats (or republicans, if you generally side with them instead) will adopt parts of the psl platform!
You’re way better of spending your time and effort getting ranked choice voting implemented. Then this candidate you support would actually have a chance of getting elected. And with the increased power over our government, stopping the next genocide in it’s tracks would be trivial.
Ranked choice might be cool.
For me it’s not an either/or. I’m a communist and I’m supporting a communist party. I don’t think ranked choice will do enough to reform our elections to give up supporting and advocating for psl.
Tbh I don’t think any voting scheme can do enough to reform our elections and I don’t think reforming our elections would do enough to fix the problems with our country.
“Might be cool”
Neuters negative campaigning, increases political competition, no more lesser of two evils I.e. third parties can win, reduced disenfranchisement reducing influence of extremist and fascist organizations, the list goes on. People actually being able to express their will through the government is the solution to every problem.
And I hate to say it but your support for PSL means nothing, literally zero without something like RCV. So again, if you care about your party, you have to work for RCV or some other improved voting system, or you’ll smugly do nothing for the rest of your political career. It sucks, but it’s reality until we change it.
Eh, reading about ranked choice from people living in places that have it makes me think it would change the dynamics of our system but not “fix” it.
I’m not against it and I think it would be better than what we have now, but I’m not going to prioritize it over supporting my party of choice especially in the face of genocide.
I think you’d be right about my support for psl if winning was the only thing that mattered. Losing parties still get funding, ballot access, event presence, media coverage and of course public awareness from their ballot turnout though, so there’s good reason to vote for em even without ranked choice.
To your comment about smugly doing nothing: I’m active politically locally to the degree that I genuinely worry about doxing myself here and will probably fuck off in a year or so. It’s really easy to get involved in local politics if you have the time to go to a meeting once or twice a month. Can’t recommend highly enough the process of attending those meetings and having the burrs rounded off your political self in the tumbler of local activity.