So you don’t like Trump or Harris – here’s why it’s still best to vote for one of them - eviltoast

It has been said a gazillion times over the last few months, but is it getting through to those who need to hear it?

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    2 months ago

    Trump has stronger negative polling in the general population than Harris so it’s not as absurd as you’re making out. Trump is also much more strongly polarising and always has been.

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        2 months ago

        You’re using an over-used debating technique where you cast doubt on others by demanding proof of any claims you don’t like but letting statements you agree with stand unchallenged.

        It’s not so far away from trumps habit of calling anything that he doesn’t like fake news.

        You’re painting yourself as a neutral who is just asking for information, when in fact you’re heavily partisan. It’s misleading.

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          You’re using an over-used debating technique where you cast doubt on others by demanding proof of any claims you don’t like but letting statements you agree with stand unchallenged.

          Actually what i’m doing is pointing out a glaring logical flaw in the article that is the subject of this post. The fact that others are willing to accept the conclusions drawn by the unsupported claim of this article is worrisome. It speaks to a lack of critical thinking and a wiillingness accept illogical arguments simply because they fit with ones world view. It is fairly absurd to me that i need to spell this out.

          And i have reaponded to you elsewhere with plenty of data that supports me. Unfortunately no one else in this thread has attempted to do the same in support of the article’s claim. Not one single person.

          You’re painting yourself as a neutral who is just asking for information, when in fact you’re heavily partisan. It’s misleading.

          I would be entertained to hear how exactly you think i am partisan. I am, in fact, one of these braindead third party voters that everyone in this thread is raging against. About as far from a partisan as one can get.

          And you, and everyone else here, has had ample time and opportunity to provide any bit of data that you like to show that i am wrong. But y’all consistently turn to attacks against me or my character instead. And that right there, my friend, is a true Trump tactic.

          If you are right then show the data.

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            2 months ago

            Me:

            You’re using an over-used debating technique where you cast doubt on others by demanding proof of any claims you don’t like but letting statements you agree with stand unchallenged.

            You: condescending waffle and deflection. Also you:

            If you are right then show the data.

            When I point out your asymmetric proof demands you just repeat them.

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              I have responded in good faith to each of your criticisms. I have provided polling data when you asked. I have not once waffled… what do you think that means, exactly?

              I continue to await anyones data driven response to my initial question. “Why are we assuming that all of the third party votes would go to Harris if they were forced to choose between her and Trump?”

              If you have no real input to add then just stop responding.

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                2 months ago

                If you are right then show the data.

                When I point out your asymmetric proof demands you just repeat them.

                I continue to await anyones data driven response to my initial question.

                …and there it is.

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                  Are you pretending that you and i are not engaged elsewhere in this comment section where i continue to post data and you continue to post none? Of course i continue to await your data. What else can i do?

                  I do this in the interest of an open discussion, despite the absurdity of a) an article giving bold directives to a group of people which are completely based an assertion made within the same article, b) the article giving zero support for this assertion, c) me asking for someone to please back up the assertion, and then d) you and others retorting with “no, you first.”

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                    If you are right then show the data.

                    When I point out your asymmetric proof demands you just repeat them.

                    I continue to await anyones data driven response to my initial question.

                    …and there it is.

                    Of course i continue to await your data.

                    This actually made me chuckle. It’s like you can’t help yourself.

                    i continue to post data

                    It’s silly to boast about data that doesn’t even add up! It’s nonsense data! You claim 3.5% of the country are non-Democrat Trump haters, and conclude that they must all be Republicans because there are 8.5% of the country who are Republican Trump haters!

                    Each non-Democrat Trump haters is three Republican Trump haters so the third party voters can’t hate Trump?!?!

                    This is the data you’re so proud of quoting! It’s so obviously BS because, and I’m surprised that I have to point it out to you a third time, one people can’t be three people. Your math isn’t mathing.