Exactly. Or complain about her at all anywhere, or say you wouldn’t vote for her or trump because of their support for genocide. You’ll have a ton of people jumping down your throat about how not voting for her is a vote for Trump and all this nonsense.
Yeah I mean all you do is make a equivalence between the two and say they are both bad so don’t vote for either and people think you are a fucking moron for thinking that. What gives? So what if the train is going to run over 1 person or 1000 people both are bad so either will do. Have to choose between the flu or AIDS and if you don’t choose you get AIDS? Both are bad so just take the AIDS. It’s simple logic and people have the audacity to think you are a fucking idiot for thinking it. Fuck them man you got this! I believe in you! Now go get you some AIDS!
Well I was going to write about how not participating doesnt automatically absolve you of the responsibility of your actions, but according to another one of your comments you don’t even live in America. So kindly, take your opinions and keep them to yourself while those who do live in the place we are having a conversation about try to make something of the terrible situation we are in.
That criticism might be relevant if your country wasn’t so invested in doing its best to also control and ruin the rest of the world, so as long as your elections affect me I’m gonna reserve the right to share my opinion on them thanks.
You’ll have a ton of people jumping down your throat about how not voting for her is a vote for Trump and all this nonsense
I’m just going to add here, that when I’m indicating this kind of thing what I’m hoping for folks to get out of it is how broken our first past the pole system is.
Because of that system, yeah, 3rd party candidates are tossing your vote away, that’s how the system is created. I didn’t make it, that’s just how it works. It’s also why the hard nationalist group usurped the party of small government. There’s a realization that a realistic third party isn’t possible, especially with how hard the two majority parties prevent 3rd parties from having an equal seat at the table going into elections. So the smarter groups have realized that if you can’t effectively make a 3rd party, just take over an already existing one. You can also see that with socialist and the Democrats intermixing. We keep excusing it by indicating “shades” of a color, like deep blue Democrats, etc.
There’s layers to the “voting 3rd party is tossing you vote away”. You aren’t at fault here for a desire to vote 3rd party, but if the only thing you take away when someone tells you that is “you’re worthless for tossing your vote in the trash” you’re kind of missing the point.
Our system is built a particular way and it’s wrong to pretend it isn’t. That 3rd parties are viable choices or actual reflections of non-mainstream political agenda, they aren’t and our tectonic sized two parties are mostly the reason for that. I’m not going to tell you to vote for whoever, all I ask for anyone is to see the problem and know voting 3rd party isn’t, strictly, going to fix it. If we look at the US State of Maine, you can see, that there is actual change and that we can have it if we demand it, no need for hard bordered in 3rd parties to enact it.
I’m not angry at anyone who says they are voting 3rd party, you do you is my biggest jam. But we’ve got to see the problem before we can address the problem, and then we need to effectively address the problem. Which means, yeah, we are wholly reliant on something that sounds impossible. For one of the two parties to get into power and then vote to make changes that could potentially dilute their power. I know that’s asking for a big leap of faith there, it is possible. But it isn’t possible if we’re just sticking our heads into the sand.
One sec, let me just wave my magic wand and solve all this
oh wait, that’s not how it fucking works. if you had anything more than a surface-level understanding of the US government, the voting system, and how grassroots change occurs, you wouldn’t be making yourself look like a moron. it’s not like a large portion of the population doesn’t want change, but your understanding is equal to ‘like and share for thoughts and prayers’, and then you get mad that nothing happens - that’s not how it works. You’re upset with the wrong people about the wrong reasons and expecting a system you don’t understand to do things that it cannot easily do. Then get upset that change - egads - takes time, effort, persuasion, luck. So you come to literally the worst conclusion because of lack of understanding on all levels. Each comment I see here by you shows an obvious lack of understanding on this topic.
Well, you guys gave us an actual honest-to-god “we can do something with this” majority for all of a few months in the past 20 years. What the fuck do you expect?
Go to Twitter, say anything about her extremely right wing record as a senator and AG.
Exactly. Or complain about her at all anywhere, or say you wouldn’t vote for her or trump because of their support for genocide. You’ll have a ton of people jumping down your throat about how not voting for her is a vote for Trump and all this nonsense.
Yeah I mean all you do is make a equivalence between the two and say they are both bad so don’t vote for either and people think you are a fucking moron for thinking that. What gives? So what if the train is going to run over 1 person or 1000 people both are bad so either will do. Have to choose between the flu or AIDS and if you don’t choose you get AIDS? Both are bad so just take the AIDS. It’s simple logic and people have the audacity to think you are a fucking idiot for thinking it. Fuck them man you got this! I believe in you! Now go get you some AIDS!
Sorry for taking a hard line on genocide, you sausage.
I’m sure the affected peoples will thank you for taking a hard stance by checks notes not doing anything.
Well if you can vote to support the murder of children en mass then great for you man. I can’t.
Well I was going to write about how not participating doesnt automatically absolve you of the responsibility of your actions, but according to another one of your comments you don’t even live in America. So kindly, take your opinions and keep them to yourself while those who do live in the place we are having a conversation about try to make something of the terrible situation we are in.
That criticism might be relevant if your country wasn’t so invested in doing its best to also control and ruin the rest of the world, so as long as your elections affect me I’m gonna reserve the right to share my opinion on them thanks.
Your opinion on who you are voting for in an election for which you can’t vote isnt needed.
If you’re in the US, you’re either voting for murdering children, or voting for murdering even more children. There’s no other option.
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Just because you cant process the externalities of your decisions doesnt mean other people wont.
Oh fuck off, I’m not even American. I’m not voting in your stupid countries election. Y’all see this shit? See what I mean?
Please piss off back to Russia or whatever country then, because you clearly don’t understand the American electoral system.
I’m just going to add here, that when I’m indicating this kind of thing what I’m hoping for folks to get out of it is how broken our first past the pole system is.
Because of that system, yeah, 3rd party candidates are tossing your vote away, that’s how the system is created. I didn’t make it, that’s just how it works. It’s also why the hard nationalist group usurped the party of small government. There’s a realization that a realistic third party isn’t possible, especially with how hard the two majority parties prevent 3rd parties from having an equal seat at the table going into elections. So the smarter groups have realized that if you can’t effectively make a 3rd party, just take over an already existing one. You can also see that with socialist and the Democrats intermixing. We keep excusing it by indicating “shades” of a color, like deep blue Democrats, etc.
There’s layers to the “voting 3rd party is tossing you vote away”. You aren’t at fault here for a desire to vote 3rd party, but if the only thing you take away when someone tells you that is “you’re worthless for tossing your vote in the trash” you’re kind of missing the point.
Our system is built a particular way and it’s wrong to pretend it isn’t. That 3rd parties are viable choices or actual reflections of non-mainstream political agenda, they aren’t and our tectonic sized two parties are mostly the reason for that. I’m not going to tell you to vote for whoever, all I ask for anyone is to see the problem and know voting 3rd party isn’t, strictly, going to fix it. If we look at the US State of Maine, you can see, that there is actual change and that we can have it if we demand it, no need for hard bordered in 3rd parties to enact it.
I’m not angry at anyone who says they are voting 3rd party, you do you is my biggest jam. But we’ve got to see the problem before we can address the problem, and then we need to effectively address the problem. Which means, yeah, we are wholly reliant on something that sounds impossible. For one of the two parties to get into power and then vote to make changes that could potentially dilute their power. I know that’s asking for a big leap of faith there, it is possible. But it isn’t possible if we’re just sticking our heads into the sand.
The problem is you guys have been saying this same shit for decades, and things have just gotten worse for it.
thanks for your constructive feedback, we’ll get right on it this time.
One sec, let me just wave my magic wand and solve all this
oh wait, that’s not how it fucking works. if you had anything more than a surface-level understanding of the US government, the voting system, and how grassroots change occurs, you wouldn’t be making yourself look like a moron. it’s not like a large portion of the population doesn’t want change, but your understanding is equal to ‘like and share for thoughts and prayers’, and then you get mad that nothing happens - that’s not how it works. You’re upset with the wrong people about the wrong reasons and expecting a system you don’t understand to do things that it cannot easily do. Then get upset that change - egads - takes time, effort, persuasion, luck. So you come to literally the worst conclusion because of lack of understanding on all levels. Each comment I see here by you shows an obvious lack of understanding on this topic.
alas… I crown you king moron
Well, you guys gave us an actual honest-to-god “we can do something with this” majority for all of a few months in the past 20 years. What the fuck do you expect?