"Weak men create hard times" - eviltoast
    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      Only white men, though. They, as a cohort, definitely had it easy like no one else. Particularly straight able-bodied Christians.

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        3 months ago

        not true. as a matter of fact creating a black upper class was a key strategy to break the direction and unity of the civil rights movement.

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          3 months ago

          That could apply to individuals, like you said, but you can’t apply it broadly like you can apply privileges to white men.

          Furthermore, they’re doing the same thing today so that literally hasn’t even changed.

          But defeating the civil rights movement was more about killing off the leaders.

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            3 months ago

            well yeah and your taking the 60’s and its not like it would be better to be black in the 50’s. What im trying to say is things basically improved until we started periodically regressing in the 80’s and beyond. It was like two steps forward one step back and became one step forward two steps back and you can’t broadly apply it to white men either but im not talking about people im talking about the time periods and living in one to the other. If you go back to the OP its about getting criticized by the older generation and responding with their own failings. Which existed. I mean the boomer claim to fame is basically the hippie erra. yuppie and beyond was not great but the hippie era was a direct result of the draft. There were some earnest individuals trying to stop pollution and improve human rights but there was also some who just did not want to get killed and enjoyed the drugs.

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              3 months ago

              Boomers were alive in the 50s and 60s.

              To be fair, a lot of them came into maturity later in the 70s and 80s, but it’s an age range of like 20 years.

              Generations are bullshit ttbh

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                3 months ago

                they even came of age in the 60’s for the older half. But again this was a period of improvement. civil rights got better in this time and much of it was do to boomers buat again the draft was a big reason for the hippie era. EDITED - just wanted to say generations are not complete bullshit. its like stereotypes. there is truth to them but not every individual will be like that.

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                  3 months ago

                  Okay, but my point, that Black boomers didn’t have it easy, is still true.

                  Also generations are bullshit - they were made up by advertisers! They’re totally arbitrary.

                  • HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com
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                    3 months ago

                    many people don’t have have it easy now, including black people. Hippie was a thing, yuppie was a thing, reagan democrats were a thing, Xers not trying in the system was a thing. tic toc is a thing. these were popular among certain groups of people at certain times and define generations. there is no hard or soft cutoff is true and its all approximation and class is far more defining than anything else no matter where you feel (if you actually realize the class your in). Its not completely arbitrary though