Weaponizing ordinary devices violates international law, United Nations rights chief says - eviltoast
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    It’s indiscriminate because Israel doesn’t know who is in proximity of the device when it explodes

    But they do know. They know that it’s an agent of Hezbollah, or else they would not have been issued a pager by Hezbollah.

    It’s no stretch to think one of the targets could have been frisking a journalist or aid worker when their device detonated.

    Ok, but that didn’t happen, so clearly it is a stretch. You’re asserting that Mossad achieved better than 99% target accuracy by accident, but the fact that it’s better than 99% proves it was no accident at all. It was a deliberate and discriminate attack on a terror network responsible for more than 8000 indiscriminate attacks on Israel in this year alone.

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      Alleged agent of Hezbollah receives the pager. Alleged agent places it on a table at home. Alleged agent’s innocent daughter picks it off the table and uses it as a toy prop. Signal is sent, pager explodes, and kills the daughter.

      There’s an plethora of situations that could occur that result in an explosive pager being deployed while in the hands of someone not a Hezbollah agent, and that’s if we take it at face value that Mossad can identify who is and isn’t a Hezbollah agent. Wouldn’t be the first time they’ve been overzealous and killed an innocent person. May they be judged accordingly by their Maker.

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        Alleged agent of Hezbollah receives the pager. Alleged agent places it on a table at home.

        Anybody with access to secure coms knows that they’re not permitted to allow others to access the device, including family members. So your situation is inherently implausible and ultimately comes down to the agent themselves not following the rules, with devastating consequences to their family.

        There’s an plethora of situations that could occur

        But they didn’t occur. So they couldn’t have occurred.

        that’s if we take it at face value that Mossad can identify who is and isn’t a Hezbollah agent.

        No, we just have to take it at face value that Hezbollah can identify who is and isn’t a Hezbollah agent. So that they give them a secure pager. Why wouldn’t that be the case?

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          1. Bullshit, unless you’re privy to the internal workings of alleged Hezbollah agents. Where’s your documented proof?

          2. So you claim that 10 year old girl who died was a Hezbollah agent? I’d sooner think you’re spewing more bullshit.

          3. See #2.

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          I’ll also propose a counterargument: Mossad, the IDF, and Israeli gov’t in general doesn’t give two shits about collateral damage, how many innocent civilians they kill, and whether or not the intended target is a Hezbollah agent (or Hamas, for that matter). If they kill a thousand innocents for every genuine terrorist, that’s a good day in their book. “Innocent before proven guilty” doesn’t exist in their world view. Guilty by association is.

          If that’s not true, they’ve got a lot of work ahead of them to improve their public image. The whole lot of them are no better than the terrorists they claim to be fighting against

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            Mossad, the IDF, and Israeli gov’t in general doesn’t give two shits about collateral damage

            But that’s false. You’re just imagining that.

            There wouldn’t still be a war in Gaza if that were the case.

            If they kill a thousand innocents for every genuine terrorist, that’s a good day in their book.

            Why one? Why not zero?