Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom Has Reportedly Leaked Online In Full - eviltoast

Has anyone actually found the NSP/XCI somewhere?

I’ve found an update file but the base game doesn’t seem to be anywhere I have access to.

  • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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    2 months ago

    You’re spouting non-stop bullshit. The Wii didn’t have R&D costs? Get outta here!

    Nintendo was on the cusp of going the way Sega went after the Gamecube and the WiiU. The financial successes of the Wii and Switch saved their asses.

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      2 months ago

      Compared to any other non-Nintendo platform ever made? No, it didn’t. They used cheap junk tech, exactly like the Switch, and didn’t commit to any meaningful investment in number of units.

      The fact that they use hardware not capable of playing modern games is why third parties have very limited involvement with them. It’s why they got ports of 15 year old games instead of most developers of new games even considering putting their games on there. And their bad hardware is a direct result of their unwillingness to invest like everyone else does. Even Valve, who has very limited hardware production, invested far more in the Steam Deck than Nintendo did on the switch.

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        2 months ago

        so… what was so groundbreaking about developing the xbox one/series or ps4/5? How are those consoles any more R&D intensive than developing the Wiimote?

        You already claimed so much bullshit which I debunked. Do you have any data about the rest of your allegations? like how Nintendo was supposedly fine after the WiiU?

        The SteamDeck wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for the Switch. The Valve VR headsets wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for the Wii.

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          2 months ago

          Performance is expensive. Building and validating a system around high end custom chips is expensive. They also will not make you units if you don’t make serious volume commitments.

          Building a very basic system with cheap, bad, off the shelf components is not expensive.

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            2 months ago

            Building a very basic system with cheap, bad, off the shelf components is not expensive.

            Sorry, you have no idea about hardware development. Just because Hardware is cheap doesn’t mean that R&D is cheap.

            Do you think that development hardware drives R&D costs? No, paying engineers does. Do you think that Sony or Microsoft develop their own chips? Again: nope: They use AMD Microarchitectures (Sony won’t make the mistake of the PS3 again).

            You know what costs R&D? Developing controllers does. And guess who reinvents their controllers every generation! Not just hd rumble, like the dual sense: Video streaming, HD rumble, IR technology, etc.

            And Nintendo tripled their R&D budget from 2003 to 2007 twice:

            In 2003, Nintendo declared that $34 million was spent on R&D. This figure steadily climbed to $103 million in 2006 and the following year bumped dramatically to $370 million.

            Source

            Any more bullshit for me to debunk?

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              Yes, designing the chips is obscenely expensive. Microsoft and Sony aren’t using off the shelf $5 SoCs. They’re partnering with AMD, using AMD’s IP, to make custom designs specifically tailored to their design goals. The fact that you think you can talk about R&D costs without understanding this basic reality is hilarious. Validating high performance custom SoC designs takes a tremendous amount of very limited capacity of small batch test manufacturing ability to get to an end product.

              I promise you Sony spent more developing their triggers than Nintendo did on the joycon. That actually is new tech. Putting IR and nfc sensors that already exist onto a controller isn’t that expensive. Developing new tech is where costs come from. Sony isn’t spending a couple hundred million. They’re spending billions, every year.

              Even after kicking their investment up for a switch 2 that can’t use an off the shelf chip because there isn’t one, they’re still spending less than half of what Sony does.

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                2 months ago

                Surely. You won’t fail to supply any data to back up your ludicrous claims this time, will you?

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                  2 months ago

                  Do the search yourself with whatever source you trust. They all have the same information.

                  Sony spent over 2 billion on R&D in gaming last year, which doesn’t count the guaranteed volume that’s also required to get leading edge chips. Nintendo still spent less than a billion (which is a big increase from the complete joke of investment leading into the switch, because the switch didn’t take any research).

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                    Ah, yes. The good ol’ “do your research sheeple” bit. Gotta love it. You’ve already claimed so much BS, why shouldsI take anything you say at face value?

                    Also: lol. Do you think that the technology in the Dual Sense’s triggers is new? o.O

                    Do you actually even own a switch, if you’re so desperate to dunk on Nintendo?