ABC News: Delaware man who police blocked from warning of speed trap wins $50K judgment - eviltoast
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    1 year ago

    It does nothing to increase safety. Mailing someone a citation after the fact does nothing to stop the crime as it is being done. And, as is the case in Lindale, it doesn’t even make any money as a large majority of the recipients just throw them away.

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        1 year ago

        I’m speaking from a place of “I drive through Lindale and see this with my own eyes”.

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          so we agree its a good thing?

          from your source:

          Last year, 17,300 speeding camera tickets were issued in Linndale — 3,319 fewer than in 2021, according to reports from the Parma Municipal Court.

          or are you arguing speeding in a 25mph zone is a good thing?

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            Are you not reading what I said? It doesn’t make the area safer. Receiving a ticket WEEKS after the fact does nothing to prevent or curtail the dangerous behavior WHEN IT IS OCCURRING. And it doesn’t make the actual street any safer because people slow down for that 100yd stretch then speed back up. Never mind the fact that a huge number of the tickets go straight into the trash.

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              wouldn’t a decrease in tickets imply it is having an effect though?

              and isn’t slowing down in a dangerous area to speed a provable effect of its success?

              isn’t someone modifying their behavior after the fact better than not modifying it at all?

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                1 year ago

                Or maybe the decrease in tickets is because of the giant billboard a local smoke shop erected saying “there’s a speed trap here.”

                Dude, just admit that this speed camera is a blatant cash grab.

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                  Ive admitted it three or four times. So for clarity, again, yes it is predicated on money. Yes, it is a cash grab. Yes it is a tax. It is a tax grab, it is a cash tax. It is a cash grab. I personally feel the term “cash grab” is a little loaded emotionally and isn’t necessarily the best and most accurate way to describe it. But it seems you care a great deal about me saying the words, so I have said them. it is a cash grab.

                  All transactions are a cash grab. Name something that isn’t. I have said from the start that the “cash grab” “tax” etc is part of the deterrent, but, to me, at least, that is better than death.

                  Furthermore - cops issuing tickets is a cash grab. Cops arresting people and them going to court and getting fined is a cash grab. Forfeiting your car is a cash grab. Paying to attend remedial driving school is a cash grab. We live in a capitalist society, everything is a cash grab.

                  I have from the start said that prevention (the cash grab) is part of the desired outcome, it is in my original comment. It is good to fine people who do bad things because it makes them do it less- as evinced by the sources I have provided - and it helps repay the cost of their antisocial behavior back to society.

                  Now that we are very clear that we both agree

                  1. it is a cash grab

                  2. why I think that cash grab is a good thing

                  3. that the good thing is the decrease in speeding

                  I am curious to hear why you think the cash grab - or to use my preferred nomenclature - a deterrent - is a fate worse than death?

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                    1 year ago

                    Have you read anything I’ve been writing? It is does not deter speeding. Outside of the 100 yards the camera it’s business as usual. People receive tickets AFTER THE FACT. It would be more effective to have actual police enforcing limits ON THE SPOT. They do not care about safety, they are literally just trying to generate money for themselves and their cronies.