i didn’t mean to imply you said capitalism is natural. i meant there’s nothing natural about it yet the entire world revolves around it and has been for quite a while. if you put a system in place human nature is irrelevant. murder is “natural”. we have laws against it. anarchism shouldn’t be just total chaos, it just removes unnecessary hierarchies.
things like jealousy and violence are usually linked to economic and social hardship, and in a fair economic and free social system it should either go away or be the result of psychological problems which should have remedies in an anarchist system as well.
I’m trying to point out the flaw here. If you give the social worker the power to do that, suddenly you’re creating power hierarchies, which goes against the whole idea.
no it doesn’t. not necessarily, anyway. authorities don’t need to automatically vanish in an anarchy. instead they may need to prove the purpose of their existence. there is literature on non-state justice systems. communism and anarchism comes from thinkers, economists and philosophers. it’s not like they didn’t just think of crime at all.
If you have power hierarchies and authorities, it is no longer anarcho-syndicalism. So I think you’re proving my point. Also, when would these social workers with this authority ever vanish? After some sort of eugenics program to eliminate all dangerous mental illnesses from humanity?
i didn’t mean to imply you said capitalism is natural. i meant there’s nothing natural about it yet the entire world revolves around it and has been for quite a while. if you put a system in place human nature is irrelevant. murder is “natural”. we have laws against it. anarchism shouldn’t be just total chaos, it just removes unnecessary hierarchies.
things like jealousy and violence are usually linked to economic and social hardship, and in a fair economic and free social system it should either go away or be the result of psychological problems which should have remedies in an anarchist system as well.
Psychological problems only have humane remedies in such a system if the person with the problem agrees to the remedy. What if they don’t?
i don’t agree. if you’re an aggressor, it’s not inhumane to require you to stop. a free society doesn’t mean you’re free to hurt people.
Require how? How would this be enforced?
i don’t know man, some sort of social worker takes them away. you’re asking me specifics like I’m going to build my own society right now.
I’m trying to point out the flaw here. If you give the social worker the power to do that, suddenly you’re creating power hierarchies, which goes against the whole idea.
no it doesn’t. not necessarily, anyway. authorities don’t need to automatically vanish in an anarchy. instead they may need to prove the purpose of their existence. there is literature on non-state justice systems. communism and anarchism comes from thinkers, economists and philosophers. it’s not like they didn’t just think of crime at all.
If you have power hierarchies and authorities, it is no longer anarcho-syndicalism. So I think you’re proving my point. Also, when would these social workers with this authority ever vanish? After some sort of eugenics program to eliminate all dangerous mental illnesses from humanity?
so you think murder is or should be free in an anarchist society?