Fortunately so far I haven’t come across a bank here in the Netherlands that wouldn’t work because my phone was rooted or because I’m running grapheneos. Hope it stays that way too.
Unfortunately, ING is getting rid of mobile payments and is the last to move to Google wallet. You can hack around the attestation requirements for Google Wallet but without hacks wireless payments are going to stop working for every Dutch bank it seems.
With banking apps in particular this lock down is ultra-stupid.
Like, I have to use your super secure app, or I can just… visit your page in a web browser running on god-knows-what with whatever extensions in any computing environment or OS of my choosing? But not using Google Play is where they draw the line.
Correct. I’ve never used banking apps in the first place anyway. If my bank doesnt have a functional website then I would change banks.
And i say this not to be difficult or contrarian. I just really hate using apps for every business in existence and simply refuse to do so. Yes I have absolutely sacrificed convenience on many occasions due to this principal.
Very good. I don’t like using apps for every little shitty website like discord or WebEx either.
Just know that this is a step forward in the direction of making it technically possible to force people to usw the app. Ask yourself if you trust them to not try and profit from this.
Just know that this is a step forward in the direction of making it technically possible to force people to usw the app.
I disagree. There is nothing stopping that as it is. What this really does is remove one more level of control from the end user on their device.
Ask yourself if you trust them to not try and profit from this.
Im not sure what you are getting at here. Of course i don’t trust “them”. Nor do i trust any corp. It’s those reasons among others why i have completely removed google from my computing life and almost exclusively use open source software as well as self host functionally all network services.
So no banking apps for you? I agree that this is shit, but pretending we are not hit by this is not helping.
Also, I don’t really use banking apps anyway because they already pull similar shit and I can get around it. For now.
Fortunately so far I haven’t come across a bank here in the Netherlands that wouldn’t work because my phone was rooted or because I’m running grapheneos. Hope it stays that way too.
Unfortunately, ING is getting rid of mobile payments and is the last to move to Google wallet. You can hack around the attestation requirements for Google Wallet but without hacks wireless payments are going to stop working for every Dutch bank it seems.
True, but that just means no more contactless. They don’t entirely block you out of the app afaik, like many other foreign banks I’ve seen do.
With banking apps in particular this lock down is ultra-stupid.
Like, I have to use your super secure app, or I can just… visit your page in a web browser running on god-knows-what with whatever extensions in any computing environment or OS of my choosing? But not using Google Play is where they draw the line.
Correct. I’ve never used banking apps in the first place anyway. If my bank doesnt have a functional website then I would change banks.
And i say this not to be difficult or contrarian. I just really hate using apps for every business in existence and simply refuse to do so. Yes I have absolutely sacrificed convenience on many occasions due to this principal.
Very good. I don’t like using apps for every little shitty website like discord or WebEx either.
Just know that this is a step forward in the direction of making it technically possible to force people to usw the app. Ask yourself if you trust them to not try and profit from this.
I disagree. There is nothing stopping that as it is. What this really does is remove one more level of control from the end user on their device.
Im not sure what you are getting at here. Of course i don’t trust “them”. Nor do i trust any corp. It’s those reasons among others why i have completely removed google from my computing life and almost exclusively use open source software as well as self host functionally all network services.
That is exactly what I meant with that. Less control for you means more control for the banks/app creators.
I myself also want to let go of the likes of Google. It’s a pretty bumpy ride, but better than a future where the Tech Bros are in control.
Honest question though: what are you using banking apps for?
On the rare occasion I need to actually interact with my bank, I log in using the browser.
There are, unfortunately, some features banks make mobile app exclusive (e.g. Zelle sometimes, check deposit).
I have a spare phone I keep in my drawer for when I really need a banking app.
My bank doesn’t have a web browser interaction ;(
WTF
I found the problem
I don’t.
I’ve seen people pay with something like that, but mostly it’s like an electronic checkbook. But yeah, browser is sufficient.
Banking on the phone is absurd concept that I will never use
Let’s hope we don’t have to.
Is there any reason anyone would want to use an out of date banking app?
I don’t know what you mean by that. Do you mean you rather use google pay?
I’ve never needed Google Pay because my banking apps are really good
I can’t think of any reason not to update them
Oh! With “get around it” I meant cash, not outdated software.
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You do you