Math - eviltoast
  • javasux@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    if it takes you 20 shots to neutralize a threat at point-blank, I don’t think you should be allowed to own a gun

    • slazer2au@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Fun thing in Australia, you don’t need to be able to hit a target to get a gun licence. Licences tests are more focused on firearm safety.

    • Shard@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      5.7 is known to be pretty terrible for its “stopping power” for lack of a better term. Its a handgun round design to penetrate body armor. In doing so it had to make sacrifices in bullet dimensions and weight. It performs similarly to a .22 magnum round which is a frankly wimpy cartridge meant for small game like rabbits.

      So 20 rounds to stop a human isn’t stretching the truth too much.

      • JackbyDev@programming.dev
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        2 months ago

        But 20? Like if you get shot once, hell, more than once, wouldn’t you just more or less drop from the pain?

        • Fosheze@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          In high stress situations people frequently don’t even realize they got shot until after the adrenaline wears off. In my EMR course they trained us that we need to physically check for bullet wounds ourselves if a shooting was suspected because you can’t rely on the victim knowing that they’ve been shot.

          That’s why mag dumping is more or less standard practice in survival situations. Sure, 1 bullet may kill the person, but it probably won’t do so for several minutes and until then you’ve only pissed them off. So you shoot and keep shooting until they actually drop. Which, when you’re talking about a particularly wimpy round like the one above, can take far more bullets that most people expect.

          • Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            Kind of like how I unload an entire can of bug spray at the wasp that came into my house.
            As a European this is my only frame of reference.