Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending Sunday 15 September 2024 - eviltoast

Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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    Continuing on from this nugget that Lex Fucking Fridman will be ā€œanalyzingā€ the Roman Empire, some nutter in the xhitter thread hoped the real reason the Empire fell would be ā€œinflationā€

    https://awful.systems/comment/4649129

    Looking forward to some chuds referencing the coming 1,000 hour podcast as proof the Roman Empire fell because woke

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      Itā€™s remarkable to me how far and how rapidly this guy swerved outside of his initial lane, all while having absolutely terrible voice and diction for being a long-form interviewer. Heā€™s worked on that, but itā€™s clear that his initial success was based off of targeting high-level professionals who otherwise wouldnā€™t very often be sought out for the type of interviews Lex does. Iā€™m thinking of guys like Jim Keller and Chris Lattner, who would probably only make such public appearances in the form of keynotes at conferences for their specific niches.

      But you canā€™t convince me that youā€™re really the worldā€™s best technical interviewer if youā€™re also uncritically sitting down with Donald fucking Trump, or deciding that youā€™re suddenly enough of a historian to take on Gibbon with your fucking podcast. Whoā€™s financing this guy, anyway? Is MIT actually kicking him cash, or is it just an RMS scenario where they give him space because theyā€™re concerned about where he might end up otherwise?

      • bitofhope@awful.systems
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        The only thing Iā€™ve seen from Lex Friedman was his interview of Brian Kernighan. For most of it I just thought it was very kind of BWK to patiently indulge this kid, who was clearly still new and unaccustomed to public speaking or researching his interview subjects, despite the weirdly professional gear setup and production.

      • sinedpick@awful.systems
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        Lex hasnā€™t optimized the skill of technical interviewing; he has optimized the skill of simultaneously stroking the intervieweeā€™s and the (implicitly) listenerā€™s ego.

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        Note that he uses the same strategy as Joe Rogan: invite a smart person on, ask them introductory questions about their research, and then just kind of sit there with a dumb look and fail to understand what theyā€™re saying. I gather that itā€™s easy to empathize with and doesnā€™t require listeners to actually learn much since theyā€™re essentially sitting in a 101 course with a professor who is reading the curriculum aloud. What puzzles me is why MIT funds this shit.

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          I donā€™t think itā€™s very surprising. The various CS departments are extremely happy to ride the wave of easy funding and spend a lot of time boosting AI, just like how a few years ago all the cryptographers were getting into blockchains. For instance they added an entire new ā€œAIā€ major, while eliminating the electrical engineering major on the grounds that ā€œcomputationā€ is more important than electrical engineering.

    • Sailor Sega Saturn@awful.systems
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      some nutter in the xhitter thread hoped the real reason the Empire fell would be ā€œinflationā€

      Someoneā€™s been watching too much Tuttle Twins (Warning: link to fascist propaganda youtube channel).

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        The links between hard money/goldbugs and (US) hard right goes back a long way, at least to the 30s I believe.

        Interestingly, an almost pathological fear of inflation is also part of the foundational myth of the BRD, but if you look at the actual history, Weimar-era hyperinflation wasnā€™t really the root cause of Nazism, the Depression arguably was a bigger contributing factor.

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          It makes a certain amount of sense with the conspiracy theories that are at the heart of fascist understanding of politics, though. Goldbuggery treats inflation like itā€™s a very simple question of monetary policy rather than a complex emergent part of an economic environment centered around constant growth. This means itā€™s a perfect tool for (((Them))) to be using from their secret position of power to invert the obvious natural order and keep Us (and more importantly from a propaganda perspective, You) away from the luxury and power that We deserve. The fascist conspiracy theories also answer the obvious problem with the goldbug narrative: if itā€™s so easy to fix inflation and would have no negative consequences, why donā€™t the people we keep electing to fix it justā€¦ do that?

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            Well put. Another example I like to play in my head (never debated a goldbug for real in my life, not starting now) is that if the gold standard is so great, how come a small-ish country like Switzerland or Singapore hasnā€™t started using it and outcompeting everyone?

            Thereā€™s only 2 answers to that:

            1. the gold standard doesnā€™t work in the modern economy, the one that has lifted millions out of poverty and created untold wealth (to great environmental damage, sure)
            2. the gold standard is being kept from them by (((they)))

            Answer 2 is obvious if youā€™re a fascist.

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              Not gold, but some countries do work to an officially restricted money supply! Those that have officially dollarised, e.g. El Salvador and Ecuador.

              Iā€™m familiar with .sv. The government is horribly constricted - because they canā€™t print money and the populace doesnā€™t trust them to print money - so every year itā€™s more sovereign bonds. Then a fuckwit like Bukele comes along and thinks that bitcoins will make anything better and not worse.

              So yeah, turns out past 1930 that not being able to do monetary policy fucking sucks.