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    4 months ago

    Biden consistently polled like trash. He was losing to Trump which is insane.

    People genuinely believing Geriatric Genocide Joe was the best candidate was astounding. Liberals really just repeat whatever propaganda they heard on CNN last night without thinking about it.

    Hasanabi has great political takes. Unlike the bulk of political content creators he doesn’t have to correct his entire world view being wrong every 3 months.

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      First of all pretty Palestine is not on the ballot it never was and never will be, that “issue” is so far down on peoples list. The main problem with Biden was his perceived cognitive ability. This was always just republican propaganda because Trump is as senile if not more than Biden and it never mentioned. That is obvious to anyone who doesn’t get news through headlines and soundbites.

      Secondly polling slightly behind Trump doesn’t mean he was going to lose. How many times have polls accurately reflected anything. Biden polled lower than Trump in 2020 and still won. Haris still polls -14 vs Trump in some polls.

      Hasans political takes are not based in reality he doesn’t have to correct his world view because it will never be implemented and can therefore never be proven wrong. He can forever hide behind the true communism has never been tried meme.

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        4 months ago

        The biggest applause during the DNC was for the mention of Palestine. Your arguments are entirely unfounded and have no base in reality. Biden was not losing to Trump in every poll in 2020 and he certainly wasn’t turning blue states into battleground states.

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          Oh yeah, they got the biggest applause did they? Are you pulling a trump and measuring every applause.

          The DNC crowd cheered for everything. I watched and I heard what was said about Palestine it was not worthy of applause. If people supported Palestine they wouldn’t have been cheering because dems basically said " get fucked we are still selling weapons to isreal and protecting them but don’t worry we are close to a ceasefire for real this time"

          I saw the reactions from pro Palestinians people and they were pissed. So to think a loud applause ment support for Palestine is dumb. These people don’t actually care about Palestine it’s only virtue signaling to them it’s not on the ballot.

          Lastly, I never said he was losing in every poll and I agree that Kamala has turned out to be a stronger candidate. I just don’t think the choice was as easy and risk free and you make it out to be. Polling is constantly up and down, kamal is polling really well but it might still be a close election.

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      4 months ago

      Very few believed Joe wast the best choice, they just really didn’t want Trump, hence the popularity of Harris despite not being incumbent.

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        Many of the most prominent liberals on Lemmy were ardently defending Biden as choice. They explicitly said they they did not want Biden swapped.

        If they wanted to win from Trump there would be no reason to support Biden if they did not think him best pick.

        Unless there is some kind of Blue MAGA movement that will justify anything as long as the other candidate does not win…

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          Dropping the candidate after the primaries is a very weak look though. Luckily they nailed the hand-off and dem energy is high overall, so it definitely paid off.

          I kinda figured even if they didn’t yeet biden, my vote would go to kamala anyway because his age is really catching up with him.

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            4 months ago

            Nothing could possibly look weaker than Biden after his CNN debate against Trump, where Biden “beat Medicare”. And even after that Liberals still ardently defended him as the best candidate. After Biden dropped out they say he’s ‘strong for realizing he needs to drop out’. Reality is Biden polled awful, even worse than Trump and he needed to go. Liberals were so unwilling to concede on any criticism out of fear to lose votes that they made up any excuse to deny it.

            The only person that actually seems popular in the campaign right now is Tim Walz.

            Kamala is an incredibly bad and unpopular candidate as well. People seem to have forgotten she ran in 2020 and was like the first to drop out. The problem with Kamala is the same as in 2020. She makes big promises but somehow her actual plans are the exact opposite

            Throughout her campaign, Harris publicly struggled with her stances on issues ranging from health care, where she initially said she supported getting rid of private insurance plans and then released a health care plan that left a large role for private insurers, to busing, which she successfully cornered former Vice President Joe Biden on from the debate stage but then struggled to come up with her own position on the matter.

            But as long as Democrats they can succesfully fearmonger Trump hard enough it won’t matter what their policies are. Liberals will justify anything for “not Trump”.