What are the biggest red flags when talking with a Trek "fan"? - eviltoast
  • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    So what about any of that screams “the Terran Empire did nothing wrong” to you?

    I wasn’t talking about you in particular, nor was I making the connection to that character when I was talking about red flags until you forcibly made it for me.

    Read again. I was talking about people posting sometimes hours-long screeds in public zone chat channels in an online game about how badly they want to exterminate undesirables, that also happen to almost universally identify with the Terran Empire or Section 31 between such rants.

    Because you went off into the weeds to make excuses for a specific character, I did happen to roll my eyes at the “the mass murdering dictator is sorry and that somehow means she is okay now, feeling bad and promising to be nicer rebalances the scales in a way that karmically un-kills everyone she murdered” argument, though it was a different topic and wasn’t even connected to what I was saying about toxic fans (and the actual topic brought up in this thread).

    Or would you rather keep deflecting?

    Spare me the catty Reddit zingers.

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      4 months ago

      Cool cool, you’re just inserting irrelevant comments into a discussion I was having with someone else.

      Truly dazzling.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        4 months ago

        Are you continuing to believe that your sidetrack fandom-driven defensiveness had much to do with what I was talking about to begin with, even after I answered your still-silly and increasingly-off topic claim that a character feeling bad and promising to do better somehow un-does the atrocities she did before?

        I’m not going to congratulate you for your favorite bad writing cliche.

        Truly dazzling.

        jagoff

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              4 months ago

              Do you have anything else to add but more seething rage?

              I really doubt they were taking their other conversation that seriously and I don’t think you need to either

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                4 months ago

                I really doubt they were taking their other conversation that seriously

                Scroll up.

                See how they reacted to my mirthful humor-intended comment, meme face and all, about the dubiousness of the writer-contrived “reformed” character mentioned.

                Play enlightened mediator all you want but you responded to my post in particular, 16 hours later.

                • bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  4 months ago

                  Space Hitler felt kind of bad about some things and made some space friends and promises to make the next Space Reich a little nicer. No need for Space Nuremburg, for real. [Memeface]

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                  Play enlightened mediator all you want but you responded to my post in particular, 16 hours later.

                  This does not read as mirthful, it just seems like a mean-spirited, dismissive misrepresentation of their position . Sorry for bringing up what you said yesterday

                  • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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                    4 months ago

                    This does not read as mirthful

                    To me, neither does this:

                    So what about any of that screams “the Terran Empire did nothing wrong” to you? Or would you rather keep deflecting?

                    Hypocrisy is super common among people that wave around pretenses of enlightened mediation, so I’m not surprised. Playing the “mean spirited” card while selectively ignoring the escalating petty hostility from the other poster isn’t surprising either.

                    I’d rather just move on. If some edgy fan wants to stan for edgy characters from what might be the worst of recent Trek shows, I can’t stop them. What I said about what I see as red flags is only highlighted by that exchange, and will further advise me any time I see another edgy fan stanning for the Terran Empire or the like.