What are the biggest red flags when talking with a Trek "fan"? - eviltoast
  • bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    Do you have anything else to add but more seething rage?

    I really doubt they were taking their other conversation that seriously and I don’t think you need to either

    • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      4 months ago

      I really doubt they were taking their other conversation that seriously

      Scroll up.

      See how they reacted to my mirthful humor-intended comment, meme face and all, about the dubiousness of the writer-contrived “reformed” character mentioned.

      Play enlightened mediator all you want but you responded to my post in particular, 16 hours later.

      • bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        4 months ago

        Space Hitler felt kind of bad about some things and made some space friends and promises to make the next Space Reich a little nicer. No need for Space Nuremburg, for real. [Memeface]

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        Play enlightened mediator all you want but you responded to my post in particular, 16 hours later.

        This does not read as mirthful, it just seems like a mean-spirited, dismissive misrepresentation of their position . Sorry for bringing up what you said yesterday

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          4 months ago

          This does not read as mirthful

          To me, neither does this:

          So what about any of that screams “the Terran Empire did nothing wrong” to you? Or would you rather keep deflecting?

          Hypocrisy is super common among people that wave around pretenses of enlightened mediation, so I’m not surprised. Playing the “mean spirited” card while selectively ignoring the escalating petty hostility from the other poster isn’t surprising either.

          I’d rather just move on. If some edgy fan wants to stan for edgy characters from what might be the worst of recent Trek shows, I can’t stop them. What I said about what I see as red flags is only highlighted by that exchange, and will further advise me any time I see another edgy fan stanning for the Terran Empire or the like.

          • bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            4 months ago

            Their reply was after your facetious comment with the meme face. Have you considered they were trying to meet your energy?

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              4 months ago

              All of this hinges on your belief that my meme-faced comment, loaded with space-this and space-that word choices, was insufficiently mirthful.

              You’re taking this exchange way too seriously.

              • bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                4 months ago

                That’s OK. You should really consider if your comments are being misunderstood as dismissive instead of “mirthful” and how you can clarify that. Can always be better at communicating

                • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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                  4 months ago

                  Can always be better at communicating

                  Take your own advice there. You have failed to persuade me and have come across as condescending and sanctimonious while also obviously picking a side while pretending to be a neutral mediator.

                  You should really consider

                  No.

                  I originally wrote, as per the OP, about what I saw as red flags with Trek fans, and that exchange (and this one) have only reinforced how I feel about Terran Empire and Section 31 stans and apologists, no matter how an edgy character in Discovery might have felt bad after the fact after making some friends.

                  • bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    4 months ago

                    Ok, I do! I never meant to be neutral, I just thought you were getting worked up over a misunderstanding. Good luck with being mirthful and dazzling and all