I used to put these on broken equipment, intensely fucking annoying job, had my boss cut one off, plug back in the unit, call me into his office to chew me out for DARING to lock out tag out a working unit, and then the fire alarm goes off. Guess what started the fire? I couldn’t quit fast enough.
There’s always some jackass pulling this kind of thing. I’ve even heard of people cutting off locks for locking out things, including a shit like breaker boxes while a guy was working on wiring. Jackass coworker pulled that, blew the guy who locked it and tagged it right off of his ladder and into the hospital. The boss suggested to the idiot that cut it off that he could either resign immediately or wait until injured coworker came back from the hospital and rehabilitation and deal with him personally. Idiot stick quit.
WHY DID HIS DUMB ASS NOT GET FIRED FOR ATTEMPTING TO ELECTROCUTE A COWORKER?!?!
Seriously, I’m more mad at the company for their policy than the dumbass who tried to fry another employee. The employee is a moron who might hurt someone, the company is negligent and is likely to get multiple employees hurt or killed with that kind of lax policy.
isnt the LOTO procedure to ask the person listed on the tag whats wrong with it before actually trying to use it. Boss ego crazy to completely just ignore the tag without understanding why it was on there in the first place.
At my place of work, we have a switch that has been locked out for over a decade. The dude doesn’t even work there anymore. Perhaps isn’t alive. It isn’t critical, but our LOTO trainings don’t cover that possibility.
That’s actually exactly how it should work. The switch isn’t necessary, or someone would have called in an expert to fix it, so it hasn’t been fixed and remains locked.
Then you need an expert on the equipment. If the person who tagged it out didn’t document why, and isn’t available to answer questions, then someone needs to do a full diagnostic and maintenance on whatever it is. Really, asking the person who failed to document the reason shouldn’t even be considered an option. Memories are unreliable. Anyone with the authority to lock out equipment should be trained on the procedure.
The original person who locked the switch fucked up, but that sort of fuckup is precisely why LOTO procedures exist. Safety regs are written in blood. 500 years ago, some well-meaning technician found some equipment that was broken and put it aside to fix later. One of their colleagues found the equipment, not realizing it was broken, tried to use it and immediately died a gruesome death.
Safety is diametric to convenience. Somebody cuts a corner somewhere, and the safest thing to do is overreact.
Gotcha, i have plenty of training in LOTO. Was merely commenting about something being locked out, and then the operator having moved on while leaving it locked out. I found it amusing.
The switch is actually operable, just locked out bc we no longer use the gas heaters they control.
Oh yeah. If he wasn’t the guy with the hiring and firing job he would have been walked off that day. He’s easily the worst boss I ever had. Started planning my escape after that. The company had a real problem with sunk cost fallacy. ‘‘Well we invested so much in him’’ was the adittude.
I used to put these on broken equipment, intensely fucking annoying job, had my boss cut one off, plug back in the unit, call me into his office to chew me out for DARING to lock out tag out a working unit, and then the fire alarm goes off. Guess what started the fire? I couldn’t quit fast enough.
There’s always some jackass pulling this kind of thing. I’ve even heard of people cutting off locks for locking out things, including a shit like breaker boxes while a guy was working on wiring. Jackass coworker pulled that, blew the guy who locked it and tagged it right off of his ladder and into the hospital. The boss suggested to the idiot that cut it off that he could either resign immediately or wait until injured coworker came back from the hospital and rehabilitation and deal with him personally. Idiot stick quit.
WHY DID HIS DUMB ASS NOT GET FIRED FOR ATTEMPTING TO ELECTROCUTE A COWORKER?!?!
Seriously, I’m more mad at the company for their policy than the dumbass who tried to fry another employee. The employee is a moron who might hurt someone, the company is negligent and is likely to get multiple employees hurt or killed with that kind of lax policy.
What happened to the idiot? Did he stick or did he quit?
isnt the LOTO procedure to ask the person listed on the tag whats wrong with it before actually trying to use it. Boss ego crazy to completely just ignore the tag without understanding why it was on there in the first place.
At my place of work, we have a switch that has been locked out for over a decade. The dude doesn’t even work there anymore. Perhaps isn’t alive. It isn’t critical, but our LOTO trainings don’t cover that possibility.
That’s actually exactly how it should work. The switch isn’t necessary, or someone would have called in an expert to fix it, so it hasn’t been fixed and remains locked.
But what if we wanted to tag it back in?
Then you need an expert on the equipment. If the person who tagged it out didn’t document why, and isn’t available to answer questions, then someone needs to do a full diagnostic and maintenance on whatever it is. Really, asking the person who failed to document the reason shouldn’t even be considered an option. Memories are unreliable. Anyone with the authority to lock out equipment should be trained on the procedure.
The original person who locked the switch fucked up, but that sort of fuckup is precisely why LOTO procedures exist. Safety regs are written in blood. 500 years ago, some well-meaning technician found some equipment that was broken and put it aside to fix later. One of their colleagues found the equipment, not realizing it was broken, tried to use it and immediately died a gruesome death.
Safety is diametric to convenience. Somebody cuts a corner somewhere, and the safest thing to do is overreact.
Gotcha, i have plenty of training in LOTO. Was merely commenting about something being locked out, and then the operator having moved on while leaving it locked out. I found it amusing.
The switch is actually operable, just locked out bc we no longer use the gas heaters they control.
Oh yeah. If he wasn’t the guy with the hiring and firing job he would have been walked off that day. He’s easily the worst boss I ever had. Started planning my escape after that. The company had a real problem with sunk cost fallacy. ‘‘Well we invested so much in him’’ was the adittude.
Oh yeah, the other side is just the info on who put the tag in, and identifying the equipment so people don’t rotate the same tags to other equipment.