my male model for relationships with women - eviltoast
  • ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Yeah, the criticism always carries the undertone (at least) of ‘oh, those adult women are just too stupid to realize they’re being exploited’.

    They know very well what they’re doing, lmao.

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      3 months ago

      Yes, but has it worked? I dont know the names of any of them, which to me implies it has not worked. Is it really always not exploitation if one side is over 18?

      There is clearly a power differential and he is using them, even IG it’s consentual. There are many consenting mail order brides from poor countries. It doesn’t make it ethical.

      • Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.org
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        3 months ago

        The imbalanced power dynamic argument is a slippery slope, when it’s clearly two consenting adults. Dating someone much lower than your current economic status is an disproportionate power dynamic. Yes, it could lead to someone being at a disadvantage or taken advantage of. Is it a bad idea? Maybe. Is any of this guaranteed? Absolutely by no means.

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          3 months ago

          It’s two consenting adults, and it’s perfectly legal, but that doesn’t make it any less gross.

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            3 months ago

            So you think it’s “gross” for a poor person to date a rich person? For whom, the rich person?

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              3 months ago

              It’s gross for a man in his forties to repeatedly date teenagers and to dump them when they turn 25.

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                3 months ago

                I agree–it’s more the pattern of behavior than if it was an isolated incident. If someone dated someone that much older/younger, i might think that’s weird. If they have a steady habit of scooping girls up shortly after becoming “legal” and dumping them after a very specific duration in order to begin the process again with another 18-19 yr old, i would definitely think that’s weird.

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                3 months ago

                Why? If they both want to do it, what is gross about it? Because you don’t like it? The same way people call gay couples gross because they don’t like it. They’re adults, they can do as they like. Anyone who Googles him will know his history, it’s not hidden. People need to stop treating women like constant helpless victims.

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                3 months ago

                There is a lot more gross shit that happens like the Catholic Church clergy raping children…

                But some how our society gets fixed on attractive young women banging rich dudes for money as some sort of moral failing and these chicks are too stupid anyway, Right?

                This says more about you as a person than the people you are criticizing.

                🤡

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                  3 months ago

                  More than one thing can be true at once. The Catholic church is known for its disgusting sexual abuse of children. Also Leonardo Dicaprio is gross for his treatment of women.

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                    3 months ago

                    One is a likely one of the worst crimes in human history…

                    The other is a conseutual relationship between the too adults.

                    Some how this legal behavior gets more comment section traction than the actual crimes.

                    Again, this speaks more about our society than Leo paying for pussy.

                    I thought sex work was all kosher? What the difference here

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        3 months ago

        You’re assuming name recognition is what they seek. The thrill of fucking a famous person (and one who is conventionally attractive, to boot), and the extravagant lifestyle that naturally comes with dating a wealthy person, are much more obvious ‘goals’ here, no?

        There is clearly a power differential

        That doesn’t mean anything by itself. There is zero indication these women are entering these relationships against their will.

        he is using them

        No more than they are using him, if any ‘using’ is going on at all (which you are merely assuming).

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        3 months ago

        I lot of people would date a wealthy movie star just for the feeling of being desirable, and free holidays and stuff.

        Fuck when I was 20 if a kinda-hot-for-her-age 49 year old had wanted to exploit me I would’ve been all over that.

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        3 months ago

        There are many consenting mail order brides from poor countries.

        How is this unethical? WTF