A kick right in the selbstbild - eviltoast
  • Junkhead@slrpnk.net
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    4 months ago

    Also yes the eastern front was absolutely a hell death grinding machine for the soldiers of the red army its wayyyyy overblown how they just used soldiers as cannon fodder and with no sense of tactic. Probably a result of anti communist propaganda after the war

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      4 months ago

      The “meat grinder” narrative was intentionally pushed forward by the west, as they were only strategic allies with the USSR. In an ideal scenario (for the west), the USSR would have collapsed alongside Nazi Germany. As a result, the “orc horde” narrative was based in racism.

      In reality, the Soviets and the Nazis hated each other far more than any other side (with the exception being the Chinese, Koreans, and other Asian countries against Imperial Japan), the fighting was far more brutal and on a much grander scale.

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        4 months ago

        exactly, alot of people dont know also that stalin approached the allies asking for help before ww2 and when they refused he pretended to make nice with hitler all the while preparing for war. The whole stalin was caught off guard by hitlers blitz is also a false narrative

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          “In the first few days of the invasion of the Soviet Union, the Luftwaffe destroyed some 2,000 Soviet aircraft, most on the ground, at a loss of only 35 (of which 15 were non-combat-related).” Wiki. How did this happen if they weren’t caught off guard?

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            3 months ago

            oh yes the soviets where completely suprised by the blitz but the reason they havent their pants down completely and fall like France. Soviets very much knew a war was coming they just didnt know when.