With Trump in mind, some progressives online turn against anti-Harris leftists - eviltoast
    • EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml
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      4 months ago

      Who I support is irrelevant and how they’re polling is irrelevant. I vote my conscience, not who is most popular, it’s that popularity contest that gets people voting against their own interests. Because they’re only concerned about being on a winning team, not necessarily what that winning team is going to do to the marginalized and the working class.

      • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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        4 months ago

        The most progressive champion of the marginalized and working class is irrelevant if they don’t win the popularity contest. My conscience requires I actually accomplish something with my actions.

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                    4 months ago

                    You unwittingly just told us everything we need to know. You don’t want to actually solve problems. You want to eliminate the people who created the problems. And getting rid of the people who enabled the problems doesn’t fix the problems.

                    This is why you don’t understand harm reduction and aren’t actually doing anything to help address the problems. You don’t want to solve the problems. You just want to get one over on those who’ve screwed us over.

                    It’s an understandable sentiment, by all means, but this is why fictional stories tend to be critical of revenge. You become so lost in punishing someone that you value vengeance over actually addressing what that person did.

                    The nobles burnt the village and hurt some of the villagers for fun. Instead of rebuilding what they destroyed and helping treat the injured, you just want to kill the nobles. It’ll feel good to succeed, but the village will still need rebuilding, and the people who needed healing will be dead.

                    Someone who cares more about overthrowing the industrialists, at the expense of their fellow proletariat, is no communist. They’re just one of Stalin’s useful thugs, and the only thing they’ll succeed in changing is who’s causing the problems – not solving the problem itself.

                    TLDR: You don’t actually care about leftist ideals, you just want revenge.