Biden calls his decision to step aside from 2024 race a matter of defending democracy - eviltoast
  • kandoh@reddthat.com
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    4 months ago

    So what? At the end of the day he did what people wanted, it just took a demonstration of how badly we wanted it.

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      4 months ago

      Why respect a Genocidal maniac for stepping down only when forced to do so?

      Just be happy he’s not running anymore nobody’s buying these fairy tales about how great he is.

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            4 months ago

            Are you denying that you have zero geopolitical experience whatsoever? Because unless you do, you have no fucking clue what Biden’s options even are, being that you’re a one note armchair political scientist without the ability to even acknowledge the most basic of realities surrounding the situation.

            You obsessively post about this issue several times every day to the point that it would be weird even if you yourself were both a Palestinian and also have hard evidence that Biden himself pulled the trigger every single time someone died.

            Your obsession here is beyond strange, and it makes it impossible for anyone observing to think something weird isn’t going on with you

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              It’s so fascinating that you simultaneously think that people can’t possibly know anything about politics if they don’t have geopolitical experience, and yet you can be absolutely certain that there is no way biden could be guilty of killing Palestinians unless he is personally executing them. Your self contradictions are so blatant, but you seem to still be completely blind to them. When you grow up, you will look back on this version of yourself as so childish.

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                Yeah it’s super hard logic but bare with me. We have supported Israel since its inception. As outsiders, we don’t really understand the impact of pulling funding. There you have it, you have no fucking clue. I know, that was really challenging to understand. But you can do it, provided you stop working for Vladimir for a moment.

                you can be absolutely certain that there is no way biden could be guilty of killing Palestinians unless he is personally executing them

                Yeah given that we have no evidence to suggest that he personally did anything, and we also know that Israel has already been receiving funding since always, I have no reason to be sure of fuck-all that you would suggest. In fact you’ve given piles of reasons to discard your every single word.

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                  4 months ago

                  So are you changing your story from biden is innocent to biden may be innocent or may be guilty, and you have no way of knowing?

                  In the same way that the head of secret service just got fired for the assassination attempt, the person in charge of the country is responsible when millions of tax dollars go to fund an ongoing genocide. That’s just how it works. The leader is responsible for what the group does. Especially when the leader is crucial in directing funds.

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                    4 months ago

                    I’m changing jackshit, scumbag who literally last night claimed that trump bombed zero people until it was proven that was a lie and then denied they ever said that. Leave this platform. Pro-Trump russian trolls are not welcome here.

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        4 months ago

        Why respect a Genocidal maniac for stepping down only when forced to do so?

        Because the alternative is they don’t step down.

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          Except no, that’s not the alternative. The party gets to choose the candidate. Biden tried to stay and they told him to get out the easy or the hard way.

          You must have forgotten Biden not holding a primary.

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              They openly ditch him during the convention.

              Donors already pulled out. Establishment called for him to step down voluntarily. if he doesn’t listen he doesn’t magically get to stay.

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                You don’t know the (binding!) DNC rules? He had the delegates committed to him and couldn’t have been forced out. And he didn’t want to quit. It was a pressure campaign to make him look out of control, and he’s always been better at negotiating behind closed doors than he is at PR so he couldn’t fight back effectively. Pretty much a chicken race to see who backs down first.

                From the timing of everything going on I suspect that with the combination of the media campaign, backstabbing in the party, him being sick x2 and tired, and finally a Republican convention and VP pick being newsworthily weird (and probably also with some commitments from others to back Kamala if he stepped down) I bet he thought there wouldn’t be any better opportunity to do it.

                (I was expecting the switch to end in chaos, somehow for once DNC managed to do something coordinated, DESPITE many donors also wanting to ditch Kamala)

                I certainly hope Kamala will be harsher against Netanyahu and back the ICC rulings

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            If you think Biden could’ve been forced out if he wasn’t willing to step down then you don’t know anything about politics.

            I bet you were one of those people demanding the sergeant at arms arrest people who ignored subpoenas during Trump’s first impeachment.

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                Do you know how Democrat canidates are picked? Biden already had enough pledged delegates to win the nomination.

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                  4 months ago

                  Not holding a primary before the Democratic National Conventionis one way to try to coup it, but they could still just put in someone else in.

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                    They did hold a primary. You might have not liked how they ran it. I had my own issues with it as well, but they did and once those votes are in the pledged delegates have to honor the winner from it, which Biden was. Tell me how they could have just taken it away from him without him stepping down again?