FULL SPEECH: President Joe Biden gives address after dropping out of 2024 election - eviltoast
  • upto60percentoff@kbin.run
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    4 months ago

    Pointedly asking people who their preferred candidate is to Biden doesn’t fit that narrative, though.

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      4 months ago

      How does it not fit that narrative? If everyone canvassed for another candidate, there might have been a legitimate primary challenge. But almost all the people who complained about Biden didn’t do that. So asking who their preferred candidate was and asking them why they didn’t canvass for them seems apt to me.

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        4 months ago

        Ignoring that asking about canvassing isn’t all you did, expecting people to canvas to have an opinion on politics is so nonsensical it actually brings us full circle to the deliberately ridiculous original comment I left.

        How is expecting people to canvas before having an opinion any better than expecting people to donate? It reeks of elitism.

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          What? Canvass before having an opinion? It had been three years into Biden’s presidency when the election year started. People didn’t have an opinion of whether or not he should run or who else should be president by then?

          You’re right, I don’t expect them to canvass. They clearly are very politically unaware.

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            4 months ago

            You’re really doubling down at every opportunity?

            How is expecting people to canvas before having an opinion more justifiable than expecting them to donate before having one?

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                4 months ago

                The point being that you went from not believing anybody else could do the job to believing in Harris because it turns out that if somebody isn’t campaigning then they don’t seem a viable candidate?

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                  4 months ago

                  Never said no one else could do the job. Why are you lying?

                  I said no one did any major canvassing for anyone else. I said it to you again in this conversation. That’s a simple fact. I’m sorry you don’t like facts so much that you have to lie.

                  Also, candidates don’t win primaries by magic. You have to get people to vote for them. That involves canvassing. Either you’re incredibly ignorant about the electoral process or you’re trolling. The lie makes me think the latter.

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                    3 months ago

                    If you pointedly and repeatedly demand which alternate candidate somebody canvassed for, then one of three things is true:

                    • You don’t think an alternate candidate exists
                    • You think somebody needs to canvas to hold an opinion
                    • You think there is an alternate candidate, but are just being difficult for the sake of it

                    Why bother pretending otherwise?