UK Climate Campaigners Get 'Utterly Disproportionate' Sentences - eviltoast
  • knightly the Sneptaur@pawb.social
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    4 months ago

    Awwh, you think being detained by cops is the same thing as road closures? Next time they start doing construction are you gonna file kidnapping charges? XD

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      4 months ago

      It was a simple question which you’ve decided to not answer and instead make a snide remark.

      So I’ll ask it again what are your feelings on the practice of Kettling? It seems like if you’re ok with being illegally detained by protesters, you would be just as ok with being illegally detained by police?

      Road closures are not

      • knightly the Sneptaur@pawb.social
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        4 months ago

        Pretty simple leading question, of course. If you want to equate police malfeasance with protesters who dare cause any sort of disturbance to the status quo, then that sounds like a “you” problem.

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          4 months ago

          I see, so when police violate an individual’s rights it’s malfeasance on their part. Yet when protesters that you happen to agree with violate those rights in a shockingly similar manner, it’s a disturbance and the individual should “get over it” and it’s their problem.

          It was indeed a very simple question which you tried to side step. You seem to understand how an individual who doesn’t have a stake in your cause could feel victimized by actions that directly affect their safety and liberty. But you and the protesters don’t care about those particular victims, you want just the attention.

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              4 months ago

              It is disingenuous to conflate a generic traffic jam that happens naturally, with intentionally blocking traffic and conspiring to detain people for the purpose of publicity.

              The two are not nearly the same.

              • knightly the Sneptaur@pawb.social
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                4 months ago

                There’s no such thing as a “traffic jam that happens naturally”, they all have causes, ranging from individuals directly responsible for collisions to failures of design and implementation that cause congestion during normal use by daily commuters.

                If they all get a pass for “causing traffic” then why are you singling out protesters as an exception?

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                    4 months ago

                    Burden of proof. Involuntary manslaughter doesn’t require prosecutors to demonstrate intent or malice aforethought.

                    Why don’t highway engineers get charged with manslaughter when their designs result in death?